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Post by Admin on Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:34 pm

You chose voting. This could be a really interesting topic - but it's not as easy as the other group chose. I look forward to reading your thoughts.
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Post by Léa ABREU on Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:11 pm

Hi guys! I find this topic really interesting as we have a recent example to illustrate it. I don't know if you have seen the last disruptive campaign form Burger King in Brazil, but they are really showing the importance of voting. And for me, the vote in France should be a duty, as in Brazil !

Here is the video of Burger King : http://www.culturepub.fr/videos/acronym-appel-au-vote-dear-young-people-don-t-vote/

Watch it and tell me what you think !
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Post by Damaye Alexis on Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:47 pm

I'm divided about the obligatory voting as in Brazil. On one a side it's a good idea because that it would force all of us to go to vote and so that should increase the number of voices. But on another side, for some people it's just a boring job and i don't see why we should obligate them to do it. And even if they're going in, that doesn't have interest if they vote "white" or "nul" (I don't know how to say it in English, sorry Evil or Very Mad)
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Post by iman ghouzi on Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:16 pm

Hi everyone . I voted for the "voting" topic today in class because of its importance and i will express my point of view about that .
I think every country should give to their citizens the right to vote and as consequence everyone should take the responsability to vote. Infact voting is the only way we have to express our point of view as citizens. Thankfully our country offers us this possibility that many other countries don't. Regarding the voting system in Brazil and what we discussed today in class, i think that imposing the obligation of voting could be a good way to push people to vote (maybe the consequences should be reviwed scratch ).
So people plese let's be active citizens and let's bring our voice in politics. Smile

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Post by Léa ABREU on Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:53 pm

Oops, I posted the wrong video, sorry... This video was also about voting (more about abstention actually), but this time in the USA, also interesting..

The disruptive campaign of Burger King : http://www.culturepub.fr/videos/burger-king-blank-whopper/
who denounces the blank vote (that's the word for "vote blanc" Alexis) !!
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Post by Léa Aupetit on Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:46 pm

I didn't vote for "voting" but we are in democracy I understand my defeat... Crying or Very sad

Last time I went to the polling place I had to sign on a registre as everybody does to prove they voted. I'm living in a tiny town in landscape and I was really sad to see there was less than 40% of the population who turned out to vote. It's a right and if you are not sure about which candidate would be the best to represent your ideas at the government you can blank vote. To my mind, if everybody stops voting we'll lose this right. And it's absolutely not conceivable.

Maybe we should do more campaigns about the importance to vote to encourage young people. Nowadays more and more celebrities or influenceors express themselves about this right. I think it's silly but in America they really trust celebrities. For example, yesterday after Taylor Swift posted a pictures on instagram (on which she was encouraging people to vote for democrats), 65000 Americans went to register on the electoral rolls. Is this the futur? Does anyone has to tell us what to do so as we could understand it's essential to vote? I hope people could understand they have the power to change everything...

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Post by Isaure Ayrault-Roy on Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:35 pm

I find this subject sooooo boring, since we are child, each year at school we hear the importance of "voting". We had this discussion many times and its always the same conclusion: it’s very important to express ourselves through our vote. That’s why I wanted so much the subject about the life after the death, so today I find the vote really unfair. Maybe my classmates and friends are too boring for me… But be serious, let’s talk about this two video.

I like the « ironic » of the first video that you post Léa (the wrong video), it’s a new and interesting way to invite the young American to vote. About the campaign of Burger King, this idea is a good one to show how is it important to choose a vote, not a white vote. Because if you choose a white vote, you let someone choose for you. But the white vote allow to express our discontent about politicians, so sometimes, white vote means a lot…

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Post by Jordan Besson on Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:15 pm

Hi guys, I’m going to share with you my point of view about the subject of the week: voting!
It’s an interesting subject because vote it’s a right that is to say we have the honour to vote in our country. However, in certain cases you can vote but it means anything such as in Syria.
Since our childhood, everybody tell us “when you get voting right, YOU HAVE TO USE IT”.
Voting right can change many things but it may also unsuccessful if you don’t know the different political programs.
The idea to force people to vote it’s totally insane because it’s not break Liberty as we debated last week.
It’s interesting to see Léa’s video but it’s just marketing to invite people to vote and I think it’s not a real solution.
As I said in the first topic citizens have to rediscover together independence, generous move and obviously a patriotic impetus. 

My friends be enthusiastic about your country.
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Post by Cédric Bourgeois on Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:47 pm

Hey guys, for me voting should be an obligation like in Brazil. Especially in France, we're a model in Europe with the French Revolution we destroy the royalty ! It's with this revolution that we have the possibility to vote. So for me to respect our ancestor who dead for our right it's really normal to vote.
If you don't like the candidats put nothing in the enveloppe but vote !
But the problem in France is that the blank vote doesn't count in the result, so a lot of people doesn't want to vote.
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Post by farah ayedi on Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:04 pm

Hello everyone Smile
In my opinion, voting is really a precious right that our countries give to us as citizens and we must use it in the right way to contribute to democracy. I think also, that voting allows us to feel the responsability of our future in our county.
For the idea to force citizens to vote like in Brasil, I don't really like it because it limits freedom of the citizen and there are many other better solutions to push citizens to vote like awereness.
So be aware and help your county to be better Wink
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Re: Group A Discussion 2

Post by Axelle Cantone on Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:56 pm

Hi everyone, it's my turn to share my point of view with you.
In my opinion, voting is a complicated subject and all opinions are different. From my point of view, voting should not be mandatory because it is a right and not a duty. On the other hand it's important to raise awareness among young people about voting. Many young people do not vote because "they don't know who to vote for". I think in high school there should have more political classes to help them to make a decision.
I also think that if we do not vote, we can't complain about the end result. We can vote and if we don't, it means we agree with the results of the election.

Furthermore, I really liked the videos that Lea shared. The first humorously insists that young people must vote more because it's our future. And second, the burger king's campaign shares my opinion that we can not complain if we do not vote.

I'm waiting to see your different points of view Very Happy

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Post by Victor Chevalier on Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:30 pm

Hi everybody, for me voting is very important because it is a right,today we all have possibility to vote, more years ago all people had not the right to vote. the voting allows to contribute to the political life,to the democracy and to express our will.

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Post by Cheick on Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:17 pm

LEA I unfortunately do not agree with your point of view. Indeed, the greatness of France results in the fact that it is the cradle of freedom and respect for human rights, so we cannot compare the history of the French Republic with that of Brazil on this subject. As France's motto "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" reminds us. Freedom also means having the possibility to choose without constraint. If you look at the history of Brazil, several heads of state were dictators and subjected its population to the abuse of a military regime. So NO in my opinion, the vote should not be mandatory, otherwise it would risk destroying the foundations of democracy.


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Post by ELISANGELA on Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:25 am

Well, in fact, in Brazil voting is a right but also an obligation! Have you thought ... what if voting wasn't mandatory? Maybe only people really interested in the political future of the Country would consciously go to make a choice. Unfortunately is not like that.

Brazilians use their right to make jokes as elect a real clown, A REAL CLOWN, for the second time: It is not my pleasure to introduce you guys, TIRIRICA! Elected for the second time:



And this time I'm so afraid of what can happen in this election. I can absolutely understand people are tired of corruption, but it is not acceptable elect a man who is racist, misogynist and homophobic.

If you haven't been following the election in Brazil, we are between something like a stupid version of Trump or François Fillon but left-wing.

Jair Bolsonaro is also pro-military dictatorship, so I hope Fernando Haddad who has a good past despite his political party, has launched good programs when he was The Minister of Education when Lula was President, and also, he was the best mayor of the City of São Paulo in years.

Hope the democracy wins!

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Post by Marina Di Cocco on Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:24 pm

Hello everyone ! I so agree with Isaure, yes it's an interesting subject but it's always the same thing "you have to vote, it's important to express your point of view blah blah blah" sure it's important, we have to "educate" children to this citizen act.
But your politics opinions depends of the politics opinions of your parents and of your education. It's prooved. So sure we have to express ourselves, we have to understand the importance of our vote and the impact of it. In facts, I don't think we should forced people to vote, there are already enough irresponsible people voting (remember that Trump was put in one of the most powerfull place in this world) so to my point of view, a white vote, it's a vote. That tell that you not agree with the choices you have. What is better ? to vote for the least worse or to express your dissatisfaction ? I believe that it's really important to vote, but i think it's more important to vote if you know what you doing rather than voting to vote and leave the power to people we don't even know the program.
It's a complicated subject...
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Post by Ravahiti on Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:04 am

Hello!

For me, the voting rights is one of the most symbolic rights who allows the Republic to be democratic. We should all oblige to go to vote because you should not forget all the people which fought to obtain this right.

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Post by Cheick on Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:44 am

I disagree with this video , because such as , everything have the positive and negative side . But if you take democry , of course there are negative and positive aspect but most of the time , democry allows to have stability and the voice of the people. Unlike dictatorial regimes, I, who have lived for several years, believe I could really talk about the drawbacks of this regime.

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Post by Antoine DEBERTOLIS on Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:29 pm

I just would like to talk about the voting system in France because I don’t have a precise point of view about the other country. I prefer the voting system in France that the American system.
Globally, I Agree with the voting system in France and I’m happy to live in a democracy system. However, the vote is facultative, but I think it must be an obligation. To vote is a right and a duty but not only an option.
Currently, I feel that our generation is less and less interested in politic. In school we need to talk more about the different point of view of the politic choice, programme of candidate and various discussions on the subject.

I Disagree with the white vote system. If you make a white vote is because you disagree with all the programs of the different candidates. This vote needs to be recognised for impact the statistic.

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