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Post by Jeremy Massonde on Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:49 pm

Hi everyone,

Here is my subject about nuclear power, is-it a friend or a foe ?



The description is :

Are you for or against nuclear energy? The necessity to respond to climate change has put nuclear energy back on the political agenda as an alternative energy source. This is part of approaches to 'decarbonise' energy through a shift from coal to natural gas, nuclear energy and renewables. Yet, the recourse to nuclear energy is hotly debated. Opponents are rife, as are supporters. Can you adopt each position in turn? This free course, Nuclear power: Friend or foe?, challenges you to do so.

The course is divided by 5 parts :

The first one is "The task". It is a sort of introduction to this subject and the course.
As it is written, we will be able to have an opinion to this question : do we need nuclear energy?

There is some aspects to consider in order to give an answer :

safety
security
economics
environment
radioactive waste management
public acceptability


Each aspect has "for" and "against" arguments.

The second part of the course is some ressources to read.
Here is some links :
For the nuclear power http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http:/www.berr.gov.uk/files/file43006.pdf
Against : http://www.sd-commission.org.uk/data/files/publications/IsNuclearTheAnswer.pdf

Have a nice week !
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Re: Nuclear power: Friend or foe?

Post by Admin on Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:32 pm

And what were your thoughts/opinions?
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Re: Nuclear power: Friend or foe?

Post by Jeremy Massonde on Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:46 pm

Before starting this course, I was "For" the nuclear power for some reasons :
- Cost of electricty much lower
- Low greenhouse gas emissions
- Export

The cost to stop the nuclear power will be so huuuuge and what would french people say if there will be an increase of the cost of electricty ? As if they don't whine enough with the fuel Rolling Eyes
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Post by Admin on Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:44 am

agreed

6hours from Soulac to angouleme yesterday. Stupid Gilets jaune.
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Re: Nuclear power: Friend or foe?

Post by Yvanilde Panont on Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:42 am

Admin wrote:agreed

6hours from Soulac to angouleme yesterday. Stupid Gilets jaune.

Hi John,

Yesterday night with Maelys we wanted to go to eat Macdonald at La Couronne, we did 30 min by car instead of less than 15 min ! Fortunately we knew a another road to go there... I don't even dare to Saturday or people who went home last night...
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Re: Nuclear power: Friend or foe?

Post by Andrea AROSTEGUY on Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:46 pm

Hi Jeremy,

I read your opinion about nuclear.
I know it's very important in our daily life...
But, nuclear is not the only one way to generate electricity...
Don't you think we can find other ways to find electricity which could be more respectful of the environment and more ecological to preserve it ?
I'm afraid that we will become if we don't do anything in the futur... Sad

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Post by joachim natali on Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:32 am

What about Tchernobyl ? Fukushima ? All the nuclear waste that we do not know how to recycle?
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Post by Jeremy Massonde on Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:07 pm

And what is your solution Joachim ? Use the wind power ? solar power ? Here is an article for you https://www.contribuables.org/2017/06/20-milliards-deuros-pour-du-vent/

Yes, nuclear power is dangerous and some accidents happened but ...
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accident_nucléaire#Principaux_accidents_nucléaires
Tchernobyl (1986), Fukushima (2011) and Kychtim (1957). Here is the 3 most important accident with deaths.
3 accident since 1957. Okay, 3 is too much but with the danger of the material used, I think this power is not as dangerous as you think.
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Post by Yvanilde Panont on Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:23 pm

Hi Jeremy,

+1 for you !!

I look forward the arguments of Joachim in order to make my own opinion !

Bye bye
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Post by Admin on Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:24 pm

As long as Blaye has no problems I'm cool with nuclear.
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Re: Nuclear power: Friend or foe?

Post by Clémence Giraud on Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:04 pm

Hi Jeremy,

I think nuclear Energy is no longer the solution for the future. We need another solution, maybe Wind turbine isn't the solution too but our central (in France) are in their old age and I think instead of re build others we need to invest in research of new solutions.
Also, studies have showed that thanks to only Economy of Energy, 23 centrals would be stoped in ten years. By Economy of Energy I talk about public lighting (shops etc..), heating, export, offices, houses….
We can solve Energy and we can change our old model by a new more respectful but in order to get a new model we need to change, transform our way of consumption. What do you think ?
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Re: Nuclear power: Friend or foe?

Post by Jeremy Massonde on Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:02 pm

Clémence Giraud wrote:Hi Jeremy,

I think nuclear Energy is no longer the solution for the future. We need another solution, maybe Wind turbine isn't the solution too but our central (in France) are in their old age and I think  instead of re build others we need to invest in research of new solutions.
Also, studies have showed that thanks to only Economy of Energy, 23 centrals would be stoped in ten years. By Economy of Energy I talk about public lighting (shops etc..), heating, export, offices, houses….
We can solve Energy and we can change our old model by a new more respectful but in order to get a new model we need to change, transform our way of consumption. What do you think ?

23 centrals would be stopped in ten years just with a better consumption of our public lighting and a more responsible behavior ? There are 58 centrals in France so 40% of them will close only with a responsible behavior ? Have you a link of your study ?
Shut the light when you leave a room is a good way to not waste energy but if the street are plunged into darkness, it will be dangerous when you drive or even if you walked alone. (I know it already exist in some cities)
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Re: Nuclear power: Friend or foe?

Post by Eudes de Geyer d'Orth on Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:12 am

Yvanilde Panont wrote:

Hi John,

Yesterday night with Maelys we wanted to go to eat Macdonald at La Couronne, we did 30 min by car instead of less than 15 min ! Fortunately we knew a another road to go there... I don't even dare to Saturday or people who went home last night...

thank you Yvanilde to invite us .....
We always invite you when we want to do some activites, but you, you always choose to do your things just with maelys. it's not cool Mad
Don't count on me to continue to invite you ...
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Post by Eudes de Geyer d'Orth on Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:20 am

After reading your articles jeremy i am ok with your opinion !

Nuclear just has a bad image because of the waste, but the advantages that it create are huge and it don't create greenhouse gas. we can't return to the coal factory and the wind or solar energy is not enough mature currently. So nuclear is the better option for the moment and for the years to come before to create the perfect solution Cool
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Post by Yvanilde Panont on Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:56 pm

Eudes de Geyer d'Orth wrote:
Yvanilde Panont wrote:

Hi John,

Yesterday night with Maelys we wanted to go to eat Macdonald at La Couronne, we did 30 min by car instead of less than 15 min ! Fortunately we knew a another road to go there... I don't even dare to Saturday or people who went home last night...

thank you Yvanilde to invite us .....
We always invite you when we want to do some activites, but you, you always choose to do your things just with maelys. it's not cool Mad
Don't count on me to continue to invite you ...

Dear Eudes,

I thank you that my "no-presence" at certain activities touches you so much !
But Eudes... Do you remember what it happens that night ? Apparently no, you have a VERY short memory.
We went (Maelys and I) at the cinema to see "Fantastic animals 2" and Maelys asked in the groupe if someone wanted to come !
AND YOU DIDN'T ANSWER ! </3

Without hard feelings,

xoxoxo

Yvanilde
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Re: Nuclear power: Friend or foe?

Post by Admin on Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:34 pm

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Post by Jeremy Massonde on Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:35 am

Get out of my thread or talk about my subject silent
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Post by Eudes de Geyer d'Orth on Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:27 pm

Yvanilde Panont wrote:

Dear Eudes,

I thank you that my "no-presence" at certain activities touches you so much !
But Eudes... Do you remember what it happens that night ? Apparently no, you have a VERY short memory.
We went (Maelys and I) at the cinema to see "Fantastic animals 2" and Maelys asked in the groupe if someone wanted to come !
AND YOU DIDN'T ANSWER ! </3

Without hard feelings,

xoxoxo

Yvanilde

you right Yva i didn't respond because i didn't see the "fantastic animals 1"... it was the only time !
But it was maelys who asked in the group, not you ! so with your respond we can see that you propose nothing Suspect
Congrat Yva Arrow
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Post by Eudes de Geyer d'Orth on Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:28 pm

Admin wrote:fight?
i think it is the only way to close this conflict Exclamation
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Post by Eudes de Geyer d'Orth on Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:31 pm

Jeremy Massonde wrote:Get out of my thread or talk about my subject silent

sorry jeremy but the nuclear is not the more important subject here !!! So get out if you want to speak about the nuclear Suspect
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Post by Clémence Giraud on Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:47 pm

Jeremy Massonde wrote:
Clémence Giraud wrote:Hi Jeremy,

I think nuclear Energy is no longer the solution for the future. We need another solution, maybe Wind turbine isn't the solution too but our central (in France) are in their old age and I think  instead of re build others we need to invest in research of new solutions.
Also, studies have showed that thanks to only Economy of Energy, 23 centrals would be stoped in ten years. By Economy of Energy I talk about public lighting (shops etc..), heating, export, offices, houses….
We can solve Energy and we can change our old model by a new more respectful but in order to get a new model we need to change, transform our way of consumption. What do you think ?

23 centrals would be stopped in ten years just with a better consumption of our public lighting and a more responsible behavior ? There are 58 centrals in France so 40% of them will close only with a responsible behavior ? Have you a link of your study ?
Shut the light when you leave a room is a good way to not waste energy but if the street are plunged into darkness, it will be dangerous when you drive or even if you walked alone. (I know it already exist in some cities)

Yes it is a study from that french website : http://nucleaire-nonmerci.net/actualite/alternatives-au-nucleaire.html
You are right for the public lighting, initially lighing exist in cities because of security question.. but I talked particularly of the shop light that you can see products throught, it is useless and it cost a lot of energy !!
I've heard too that some cities turns the light of from 00 to 5 AM and I really think it can be a good idea. The continued increase of light has a great economic and environnemental impact but also on our life quality (sleep, animals reproduction etc..). Also I've read somme aricles about the experience of turn the lights off and it true that people are a little bit more anxious but studies have shown that crimes have a tendency to decrease. Surprising, but true !!

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Post by Matthieu Morisset on Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:30 pm

I'm not really into nuclear i have to say. But, i can't imagine a near future without it, in france. There's already to many side subjects that we need to solve. it's clear that nuclear is dangerous but the risk are rather low and it's really economics. I can't imagine people not being against it if there is already a crisis for X centimes taxes on fuel. Just my opinion...
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Post by Jeremy Massonde on Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:24 am



Yes it is a study from that french website : http://nucleaire-nonmerci.net/actualite/alternatives-au-nucleaire.html
You are right for the public lighting,  initially lighing exist in cities because of security question.. but I talked particularly of the shop light that you can see products throught, it is useless and it cost a lot of energy !!
I've heard too that some cities turns the light of from 00 to 5 AM and I really think it can be a good idea. The continued increase of light has a great economic and environnemental impact but also on our life quality (sleep, animals reproduction etc..). Also I've read somme aricles about the experience of turn the lights off and it true that people are a little bit more anxious but studies have shown that crimes have a tendency to decrease. Surprising, but true !!  


The 23 centrals fact is not explicated in your link
But maybe these lights shops can use the light to be more visible in the night, it's maybe a "communication tool" and they pay the electricity so ...
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Post by Jeremy Massonde on Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:25 am

Matthieu Morisset wrote:I'm not really into nuclear i have to say. But, i can't imagine a near future without it, in france. There's already to many side subjects that we need to solve. it's clear that nuclear is dangerous but the risk are rather low and it's really economics. I can't imagine people not being against it if there is already a crisis for X centimes taxes on fuel. Just my opinion...

French people...
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Post by Yvanilde Panont on Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:40 pm

Eudes de Geyer d'Orth wrote:
Admin wrote:fight?
i think it is the only way to close this conflict Exclamation

Fight is for weak persons. Let's discuss.
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