autonomous work - saving endangered species

Saving endangered species,

I think this might be an interesting subject, because many of the most popular and most debated topics nowadays revolve about the things humanity spends its money, time and effort on and how it’s appropriate or not to do so, space exploration, sports or entertainment are a few examples, but one of the things humanity spends lots of money on yet nobody or very few question is wildlife preservation or saving species from extinction.
So what I am going to do is pretty straightforward, I’m just going to borrow this too often asked question, and use it on this matter. Is spending billions of dollars on saving endangered species worth it ? subjectively speaking, i’d like it if every animal could be saved and get to live a happy life, but the thing is, i used 0% thinking on that statement, it was out of pure love for animals, so let’s try and be a little bit objective now, what’s in it for us ? for humanity ? this may come out as very selfish, and you know what ? that’s because it is, and there’s nothing to be ashamed of, i think it’s only natural to think about our own good and the good of our specie. For example, am all for saving bees and other species that are useful for humanity, but saving pandas because they look cute is a bit crazy if you think about it. This a quote from the movie jurassic park: “ scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.” and i think it fits very well here, i think that saving or trying to preserve some species is just humanity overusing its power and showing off, wildlife didn’t seem to struggle before humanity, it was doing better actually. So what sounds and looks like something noble and selfless is just humanity tempering with evolution and natural selection.
My point is, i think wildlife is a wonderful thing and animals are awesome af, but us humans need to know that some decisions are not ours to make.

I agree

Hey badr,

I think we try to protect the species because we destroy a lot of thing around them, as the intensive agriculture, or we kill them for pleasure. Its why it is important to protect animals of abuses. Because the suffering or the violence towards any living being is a problem, it is a lack of empathy and this is bad for humanity too.

You said "i think it’s only natural to think about our own good and the good of our specie".You prefer your specie but we are just a thing on the earth. Because if we don't really respect the nature and all she made it, she's going to take back her rights (and it is normal).

Biologist Ken Thompson is aware of the embarrassment caused by this question, at the heart of his popularization book Do We Need Pandas?
I think all species have a goal in the wilderness. If the panda were to disappear, there are great risks that other species around it would disappear.
Oanda is an "umbrella species": it attracts attention, if possible the funds for its protection, and its protection makes it possible to protect a multitude of other less media-friendly species. By protecting an animal's living space, we also protect other less loved animals. Unloved, but just as useful: pollinating insects to produce vegetables, filter bacteria to get drinking water, plant molecules to make medicines....and they have an interaction with pandas in the nature circle.

So as you said if the nature eliminated a species, it's normal (as the dinosaure). But the Humans don't have to break the circle life (kill animals by pleasure, destroy nature).

I don't really want to disagree but we are nature too.

We are simply doing what nature has programmed us to do.

We are not alone in destroying other species.

Fire destroys everything in it's path. water kills without conscience.

Bacteria and viruses etc...

Is there any other species apart from man that actually tries to protect other species?

I want to say wich specie destroy more the nature than human ?
In fact we are on the top of the pyramid specie because we are really adaptable with our memories and our body. Bacterias, virus, fire, water don't have a conscience. With our conscience we can build thing to improve our life..but this is not the only wonderfull thing. We can said thanks to the life and make all around us happyness and make beautifull thing as Art : imagination is freedom. With art we can be surprising and observe beauty, it is the sensitive intelligence. So our conscieness is our freedom.
We are a part of the conscience of the nature i think. It could be difficult (when you know a lot of sad things we do). But this is wonderfull if you use it with intelligence and love.

I love this debate !!!
I agree with all of you....The fact is if a "natural" thing kill animals (humans too) like the dinosaure, all the money of the world will not going to serve....

I think that "saving endangered species" is a kind of way to give a "good image" and to have a "a clear conscience" (of course lot of people save species and it's a very beautiful work but.....)

Nowadays, humans are the "master" of the world like were dinosaures. But this strength was also a weakness. I am sure that one day a big catastrophe will happen and only little specie will survive.....It's a dark vision I know....but I am sure that the problem in our planet is human activities

Mégane wrote:Hey badr,

I think we try to protect the species because we destroy a lot of thing around them, as the intensive agriculture, or we kill them for pleasure. Its why it is important to protect animals of abuses. Because the suffering or the violence towards any living being is a problem, it is a lack of empathy and this is bad for humanity too.

You said "i think it’s only natural to think about our own good and the good of our specie".You prefer your specie but we are just a thing on the earth. Because if we don't really respect the nature and all she made it, she's going to take back her rights (and it is normal).

Biologist Ken Thompson is aware of the embarrassment caused by this question, at the heart of his popularization book Do We Need Pandas?
I think all species have a goal in the wilderness. If the panda were to disappear, there are great risks that other species around it would disappear.
Oanda is an "umbrella species": it attracts attention, if possible the funds for its protection, and its protection makes it possible to protect a multitude of other less media-friendly species. By protecting an animal's living space, we also protect other less loved animals. Unloved, but just as useful: pollinating insects to produce vegetables, filter bacteria to get drinking water, plant molecules to make medicines....and they have an interaction with pandas in the nature circle.

So as you said if the nature eliminated a species, it's normal (as the dinosaure). But the Humans don't have to break the circle life (kill animals by pleasure, destroy nature).

Hello Megane,

Of course, animals shouldn't be mistreated, i never said they should. My point is actually similar to yours, we just took it from different ends. we both agree that we shouldn't mess with nature and its course, so to be more general, we shouldn't abuse our power and "save" endangered species and we should DEFINITELY NOT HURT any life form and show nothing but the utmost respect to nature.

About the panda part, Mr Ken's argument is pretty vague and could be used by both sides. If a specie were to go extinct, maybe there's a reason for that, maybe it's for the good of the ecosystem, and i think the history of evolution can back me up on this one.

Once again, i am not saying animals are worthless or that they should be mistreated, Hell i think i even prefer animals to humans haha , i just think that humans should learn to respect nature by letting do its thing. Thanks for the reply

Marion.LM wrote:I love this debate !!!
I agree with all of you....The fact is if a "natural" thing kill animals (humans too) like the dinosaure, all the money of the world will not going to serve....

I think that "saving endangered species" is a kind of way to give a "good image" and to have a "a clear conscience" (of course lot of people save species and it's a very beautiful work but.....)

Nowadays, humans are the "master" of the world like were dinosaures. But this strength was also a weakness. I am sure that one day a big catastrophe will happen and only little specie will survive.....It's a dark vision I know....but I am sure that the problem in our planet is human activities

Exactly Marion, i think we should stop focusing on what looks good and start doing what is actually good.
And exactly once more, we're in fact "masters" of this world for now, but doesn't mean we're the best at surviving. Some species have been around way before us and some of them will most certainly outlast us. So the fact that nature could wipe us off in no time should give us a clue, and stop us from trying to do its job. Thanks for the reply