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Post by Admin Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:36 pm

The two suggestions this week are..... "Out of Date food - do you use it?" and "Things that don't fulfil their function" clown
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Post by GUEHO Timothe Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:16 pm

Out of date food food, I find that expiration dates depend on the style of food. Indeed, the dairy products they must really respect the date otherwise we are sick the next day ^^. But for example, for "dry" products the recommended date is wrong. My auntie who was the director of a factory told me that they are obliged to put expiry dates even that does not correspond strongly to reality. This pushes society to always consume, to buy back. It also pushes consumers to throw away as soon as it's expired, while the product is still good to eat.

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Post by Clément Blanchet Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:23 pm


     I guess this group has the most interesting subject this week: there are so many things that don't fulfill their function, which makes me laugh out of laud. However, I'm pretty sure that nobody understands the subject, hence I give you an example: Gaetan's knee! Indeed, even though knees aim at rotating the leg from the thigh and allows 120° flexion, Mr. Luce can't...
     
     Now, I'm sure that everyone understood the subject, and I hope that you won't repeat what Timothe just said with different words: use your creativity, please. Remember that in this forum we're not more than John's entertainment (+ a few hours of boring work for him). Therefore I'll talk to you about a strange animal from New Zealand: the Australasian swamphen (aka the pukeko for those who speak Maori here).

     First I postulate that birds only are useful while flying. If not how can they hunt insects and preserve the food chain? However the pukeko is a bird that can't fly, hence it doesn't fulfill its function. On the other hand, you may affirm me that you saw videos entitled pukekos caught flying. Nonetheless, those are fake pictures from individuals falling, in a terribly bad quality slideshow. Don't worry I didn't lie. In conclusion, I want you all to go and see pukeko's picture because that's as beautiful as useless (not as Timothe who only represent one aspect).

     Do you have a better example than a bird that can't fly to describe something that doesn't fulfill its function?


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Post by Sabri El Madi Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:20 pm

We know that there are foods that are not best eaten when they are outdated. For example, raw meat or eggs. But on the other hand, it should be known that other foods they can be consumed long after the expiration date. Indeed, I know that honey is one of the foods that never perishes.
In addition, starchy foods and dry foods can be widely consumed after the expiry date. For example: pasta or rice.
It is very important to know all this because many people think that expired products cannot be consumed.
This represents a major part of the waste of French households.

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Post by LORENZI Emma Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:10 pm

I don't understand Clement's subject so I will speak of "out of date food".
Firstly, I want to tell you about my crepes with my out of date flour. It was a total disaster.. actually, it looked like a frisbee (Léa and I made some passes). But, I don't think that it was because of the flour but maybe because we put too much sugar (thanks to Léa, of course). We also forget to put some eggs..
Let's get back to the topic in hand, I think that it's important to know how long we can eat food, even if it's out of date and especially for a student who is a cooking beginner. We all know that some type of food can be eat even if it's expired because a use-by date on food is about safety (be careful with the meat products). To prevent food wastage, all of us should understand the different types of dates and advices on food packaging.
Unfortunately I don't know a lot of things about this subject so I hope that my classmates will

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Post by Mathis Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:58 pm

I'm gonna talk about the subject of "Things that don't fulfill their function" because I haven't find anything to say with the other subject. So the subject is very large but it's also very difficult to find an example of that (except by making humor). For example, the salad in a tartiflette does not fulfill its function which is to be eaten. An other example is the blue part of the erasers. Indeed, I have never seen anyone succeed in erasing ink with this part of the eraser when it is used for that !! I have an other example with my car. Indeed, I have a place made to insert bottles or glasses but there is my handbrake which is on top and I therefore cannot put a bottle or even glass in it !! SO IT'S USELESS !!

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Post by Admin Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:04 pm

LORENZI Emma wrote:I don't understand Clement's subject so I will speak of "out of date food".
Firstly, I want to tell you about my crepes with my out of date flour. It was a total disaster.. actually, it looked like a frisbee (Léa and I made some passes). But, I don't think that it was because of the flour but maybe because we put too much sugar (thanks to Léa, of course). We also forget to put some eggs..
Let's get back to the topic in hand, I think that it's important to know how long we can eat food, even if it's out of date and especially for a student who is a cooking beginner. We all know that some type of food can be eat even if it's expired because a use-by date on food is about safety (be careful with the meat products). To prevent food wastage, all of us should understand the different types of dates and advices on food packaging.
Unfortunately I don't know a lot of things about this subject so I hope that my classmates will

If it was like a frisbee it was because the mix was too thick - not enough liquid. Doesn't matter that you didn't use eggs.
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Post by Lola ESPOSITO-FARESE Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:45 am

I don't really use the out of date food except for fresh products like eggs, meat. Sometimes I used the app "toogoodtogo" which is a Danish mobile application. You are connect to bakeries, restaurants, supermarkets and many other which have the application, to offer unsold products at reduced prices in the form of baskets to save. You can also save plants because supermarkets like Jardiland registered there. This is a very interesting app which avoid waste and you have a lot of good products that don't deserve to go in the trash...
so I advise you to use it because it's super cool. And the more visibility the app has, the more stores will offer baskets to save.

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Post by Vincent CHOLLET Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:12 pm

This week's theme is “Out of Date food”.
I know that certain foods expire very quickly and cannot be eaten after the expiration date, such as dairy products, eggs or even meats and fish. But you should know that if we are sure not to eat meat before the expiration date, we can freeze the meat to be able to reuse it after the scheduled date. I know that anything dry like cakes or cookies can be eaten after the expiration date, which has happened to me before.
Some foods, you should not necessarily rely on the dates because they will be consumable even afterwards. The reason companies set dates is to get consumers to buy their branded foods more often.

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Post by Julien Asselin Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:58 am

I find this subject is very interesting. You should know that even if a food is expired, some can still be eaten. do not confuse the date of minimum durability, the "to consume before ..." and the expiration date, the "to consume until". The first category indicates that once the product has expired, it can no longer be eaten. The second category indicates that if the date has expired, the food may still be edible if it is stored properly. for example, honey can be stored for life, chocolate can be consumed for up to two years after the expiration date. Or dry products (pasta, rice, lentils) can be kept for a few months in airtight packaging

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Post by LuceGaetan Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:30 pm

After reading Mr. Blanchet's post... And my famous knee... I think I'm going to salt about handkerchiefs today !
Why handkerchiefs ? Because I have it just above, I have just read Clément's post and so I don't know what to say to this clash since today his knee is functional contrary to mine...
So to answer the question about handkerchiefs, at the moment I use them to wipe the tears that run down my cheeks rather than blow my nose...

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Post by Matteo Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:37 pm

This week the subject that interests me the most is "Out of Date food - do you use it?".
Indeed, I find this subject very interessant because I really like the food and the discussions about food fascinate me.
First of all, as indicated in the question, I hate the out of date food, I look at all the expiration dates in order to be able to consume it without the expiration date having passed.
When i shop i have a list (like everyone i guess) and I look at the consumption date of all the products on this list. Moreover, I plan all the meals of the week for not to buy too much food and thus waste.
I know that the consumption of expired food is not dangerous for humans (be careful not food that has expired since 2010)...I don't know why but I am obsessed by this when I eat (even an expired yogurt from the day before I don't eat it).
Finally, I don't eat expired food because there may be bacteria that are harmful to humans.

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Post by emiljouannetaud Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:32 pm

Out of date food, do I use it? Well, it depends on few things. First, the type of food, if it's a yoghourt or flower or anything that can be preserved well, i'll eat it even if it's out of date by 2,3 weeks. If the food smell bad or is well out of date, I usually don't use it. Another factor is how drunk I am or who is with me. For a challenge, eating well out of date food, i'll problably gonna do it even if my stomach hurts the day after. Also, it depends on if I already tried a similar thing. For example, if a product is out of date and in the past I ate a similar thing or the same product and it was fine, I'm gonna eat it or use it in a prepartion for myself. But most of the time, my food doesn't get out of date.

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Post by Labaste Jules Mon Feb 01, 2021 2:18 pm

Out of date food is a broad term. I'm someone who doesn't like waste the food, so it can happen I eat expired food. However, I think the expiration depends on the style of food. We must not let expirated the date of fish or meat. Nevertheless, it's possible to eat expired yogurt, chocolate or candy. A lot of outdated, expirated, food is thrown and wasted by a lot of people while some people are starving, and I find that very unfortunate. Sad

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Post by Grondin Tom Mon Feb 01, 2021 4:03 pm

Hello,
Of course I choose the subjet about food, who here can tell me he doesn't like to eat ! pig
So to answer the question do I use it, that depend of which food. For meal 1 or 2 days after I don't really care and I eat them. But when it's more and didn't froze them so it's start to be pretty hard ! No
For other food like yogurt if the lid of the yogurt is not inflated so that mean we can eat it ! I don't really know if it's the truth by my father tell me that Very Happy
After for other food like pasta, rice I think I can eat them 1 years after this doesn't change. And for cheese I can wait too I mean the rot is full of vitamine !! cheers

Have a good lunch ! bye !

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Post by Evan Rebierre Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:21 pm

To be honest, I think this is by far the worst subject we've ever have to write about.
TO me out of date food is a controversial subject as of late as the waste of food is an important problem throughout the world. Food suppliers put a "best by" date more as a guideline for consumption rather than a concrete limit to the ingestion of said food products, yet most people consider it as such. The problem is mostly centered around large scale supermarkets as they do throw away food at this limit, even if they do lower prices if the food in question approaches its end of life date. The main problem is that whilst people are starving in Africa we allow ourselves to throw away food that is perfectly comestible.

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Post by Admin Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:52 pm

Evan Rebierre wrote:To be honest, I think this is by far the worst subject we've ever have to write about.
TO me out of date food is a controversial subject as of late as the waste of food is an important problem throughout the world. Food suppliers put a "best by" date more as a guideline for consumption rather than a concrete limit to the ingestion of said food products, yet most people consider it as such. The problem is mostly centered around large scale supermarkets as they do throw away food at this limit, even if they do lower prices if the food in question approaches its end of life date. The main problem is that whilst people are starving in Africa we allow ourselves to throw away food that is perfectly comestible.

You must be joking, We've had some terrible subjects over the last 2 years. Very Happy
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Post by Romain BERTRAND Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:16 pm

Today, I will talk to you about the amazing Clement’s subject, and I will tell you the story of the miracle pill for many men (not me John ! Don’t imagine sordid stories !) the Viagra.

This famous blue pill which is known to treat erection problems. But in the early 1990s, the purpose of sildenafil (the name of the Viagra molecule) was to treat angina. But once the scientists observed that the molecule didn't work against angina, they also observed that some patients had not returned the rest of their drugs. And this is where some patients have confessed that this drug improve their sexual performance. The researchers therefore stopped trying to cure angina and decided to market this erection pill, and the Viagra is created. So Viagra does not fulfill its original function !

Noted that the laboratory that marketed Viagra is Pfizer ! The company that created the vaccine against covid. So we can say that they controls the world to the end (of the end) ! Wink

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Post by NOUZILLE Jeanne Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:19 pm

I think that out of date food can be eaten but you still need to be reasonable. Like when jam is open since 8 days and smell like your feet after sport, throw it in the trash. Don't be seek.
But if this is a dry food, then go ahead and don't be afraid. And if the food is still in his original packing, the date shouldn't be an issue

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Post by Legrand Gwendal Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:01 pm

Two subjects for the week? what a luxury...
I'm gonna talk about a little bit of those so.
About the things that don't fulfil their function, I think that actually we've got a lot of things that can be out in that category, (like politics people...), but the one that I remember should be my stomach. His first function is to stock and destroy what I've eat before, but I think he has give up (to many work to do...?) to join help my liver, wich has a lot of work (because of STAPS U know, alcohol...)

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Post by Hugo Wannepain Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:30 pm

When the date of the food is over, I oftenly don't eat. But there are technics to know. For example you can put your eggs in water and if they go to the surface, it's not good. With your fruits and your vegetables if they are greys or if there are moulds, it's not good to eat.

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Post by idris hamidi Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:12 pm

Regarding the first subject to know "you use the food to expire" the answer and not, however if it is more than 1 day it still passes. Well instead of throwing it we can use it different example we put it in a compost like that feeds living beings. Concerning the second subject to know "" Things that don't fulfill their function "what more can I say except that it is really annoying, we buy something and it does not fulfill what it is for it's intended it's really annoying (except the banana rains it fulfills their function)

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