Second week Discussion

Very few of you posted and made proposals in the week 1 thread. That's disappointing and means you'll lose marks in participation.

Jordy was the first to post and so I'm going with a variation of his idea for the week 2 discussion.

I want you to post your opinions on "Celebrity Culture". There has been an enormous change in Celebrity culture over the recent past, what do you think of it? What does it say about our modern day society? How does it affect us? What are your views on "celebrities"? Where do you see this trend going?

There are no wrong responses. Over to you...

A couple of articles to inspire you:

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Hi John,
I think that the "Celebrity culture" exist. People are more curious about celebrities' lifestyle than in the past. Celebrities create blogs or books about their lifestyle to be the repesentatives of a better lifestyle. Celebrities are very influentials by young people. They want to be like them in the future because they have all they want. So, the celebrity's speech is this : to have a high-quality of healthy life we have to eat healthy foods, to make sport, to wear brands etc. I think that celebrities are the icon of consumption society. It's not a new phenomenon but it's a fact more important in our modern society.
However, adults are more indignants about polemic situation of celebrities. For example, the humorist Gad Elmaleh is one of the most favourite humorist in France. But he is in a controversial situation because he was opened an account in Switzerland to deposit his money. A lot of people consider his gesture as unbearable because it’s a fiscal logic.
We can say that there are two type of Celebrities’groups : the first tries to have a better image but at the same time, the second is more “trash” : they go to rehab, they shave their head (Britney Spears is the most famous in this class)
So, I don’t have an idea about the future and the impact of the “celebrity culture” in our society… To be continued…

See you soon !

Hello,
What i think about Celebrity cultur? I think Celebrity Culture is not a good thing.Too many young people compare themselves enough in the normal world and these "celebrities" who are typically screw ups in the real world make life seem so easy and never really outgrew the "invincible" phase of adolescence. Not all celebrities are jerks but all of them have vanity or they wouldn't be where they are. It's amusing how all of a dissent women in Hollywood get mature at age 40 or 50 because they are being replaced on magazine covers by young new stars (which they had no problem doing to their predecessors before them). Few have happy relationships and the ones who are happy are out of the limelight anyway. Sometimes,I find it disgusting that talent means nothing.

Hi,John
On celebrity culture,Celebrities are not merely being famous and known by most people nowadays, what they have done even their values are affecting their fans in a great sense.Celebrities like Jolie, who devoted herself in women breat care, has been arousing a wide range of popularity for women to care more about their breast health. However, there are also celebrities like Fang Zuming, a Chinese actor, who has been sentensed to prison for drug overdose. All these examples show that celebrities are just human beings, their influence acturally depends on what kind of people they are in their deep inside but not who they claimed themselves to be.
In my view, the difference they made to people are greater than we can imagine. Celebrities, to a certain degree, represents the preference of the modern society.They are who we want to be, that's what makes them popular.There are rumors that celebrity culture makes women dumb.As a female, I'm totally in disagree.People like good and beautuful stuff,but we still have the abilityto identify where to draw the line.
To summarize, celebrity culture is the yeild of people's persuing for a better self, but we should always respond with a second thought.

Hi John,

First and firemost, we may say that celebrity culture has known a recent evolution. Indeed, even if paparazzis had  always been present, we may claim they are increasingly following celebrities unknown to them. This phenomeneon has a bigger scope currently because of the development of social media. In other words, the way of life of celebreties is a social model. People are increasingly interessed by it and pay more and more attention to it.
Celebrity culture is a lucrative sector. Such companies use advertising to stage the using of its goods in celebrity’s daily life. Next, some companies are paying some celebrities in order to use their goods. For instance, some  sportmans had learned money in exchange for wearing Power Balance wristband  a few years ago. At last, many magazines and publishers cash in on this phenomenon.
However, this infatuation has negative consequences. It is very hard to control issued informations and photographies on medias. For instance, Jennyfer Lawrence saw  some months ago some nacked pictures of herself on internet. Many celebrities have difficulty to support this intrusion in their private life. Even if they  exhibit their daily life in order to be more famous, many of them suffer psychological damages.

Hi John,

The way celebrities culture have changed is very interresting but also disappointing. Several years ago politicians were considered as celebrities. The studies to rich high responsabilities were a model of success. Nowadays appear in a reality show is enough to earn much more money and fame than a politician.
In that situation, everybody can be a celebrity. And so we melt talented ones with the others. Each celebrities earn enormous amount of money compares to the "common" people. If they earned so much it's because producers or directors are ready to pay this, because celebrities make them earn more.
The incomes or royalties we can see in the press drives crazy the ones who can't succed to pay back their credits or paying food at the end of the month. And so each mistake celebrities make is critize because with so much eases we think that they can have a perfect behavior. But they're also humans and make errors.
And according to what Marine says with internet, everything is known, and quickly.
So we can tell that scandals who are related in the medias are sometimes fair, like our minister of economy who have stranger's bank account. And sometimes useless like the "Nabilagate" when a reality TV star tries to murder her boyfriend.

Hi John,
Indeed, today celebrity culture is more influential than ever. As far as I can judge, there are two main reasons for it. First of all, social media give people an opportunity to get more acquainted with celebrities' lives, to get a closer contact. Secondly, today it's really difficult to surprise someone with a good voice or an excellent acting. In order to be provocative, celebrities try to create an additional agiotage around them. I think that a good example is Miley Cyrus: this girl is more known for her freaky escapades than for her creative activity.
I think that celebrity culture has a negative impact on both celebrities' lives and their fans' lives. A fame is a burden as long as a private life, personal tragedies and relations go public and become a subject for rumors and discussions. Moreover, for ordinary people an obsession with celebrities' lives is also an evil: people start to compare their lives, their bodies and their partners with a glamorous polished legend and become frustrated and disappointed with their lives. (as in “The Joneses” film, for instance)

Hi bro !
I don't really like this celebrity culture thing. The past few years, real champion displayed modesty and honesty. Take a look for example to cyclism, and le touw de fwance, the winners were so shy and didn't know how to react in front of a camera. The thing is, today people are not acting like we expect them to act. They're wearing fancy clothes, they are wasting their money in futile things, in huge care, in woma... oh wait...
The only cause is money. We are giving them so much, that they are acting like semi god, thinking they are better than anyone else.

This is not my personal view, i wrote this for the class , when i'll be a real worker, i'll buy a jaguar .

According to me, the celebrities' world is a big and huge business. Nothing else.
Celebrities have a such influence that their behaviors have more impact on our lives than our social background.
How can we accept this ? Well... We are dreaming. Dreaming of a beautiful life without constraints,  having everything we are wanting : To be boomy , RICH and influential.
And because money doesn't grow on trees (unfortunately, not yet..) ; we try to do like them (with a different level of course..) and we are dreaming and praying to have … all of that in the future.
That's why today, we can't watch a movie without a promoted product. A soccer team is no more interesting if there are no stars inside. We can see it , with the PSG soccer club. Since Zlatan, Lucas, Pastore etc. have arrived, the french soccer competition and news gravitate around this team. As if it isn't enough that those people are excessively paid to chase after a ball... they are building a business around them to make money. (do you know how a soccer player is paid just to wear shoes, clothes to encourage people to buy them ??!!! they wins MILLIONS!)
And all of this exist everywhere. They create magazine with unaffordable things ( clothes, cars ; houses and so on... ) just to show how we have to act to be trendy.. Celebrities exhibit their trick. And it works !
Here is a  personal memory, I met a girl during my scholarship who appeared fortunate. She wore only high labels. And she was desired by everyone . When I learned her story I was shocked. Actually, she belonged to the lower class. Her mother was a cleaner lady and worked overtime to paid all of her desires. ( she was a single mother). Her daughter become so arrogant and selfish that she didn't see the sadness and tiredness of her mother. All she wanted was to be famous.
She was young, we learn from our mistakes but nowadays, it concerns lots of « adults ».
It's quite simple, today to be a star you don't have to be different or intelligent, you just have to do a reality TV and catch somebody's attention ( no matter how). That's it. But when we see how they finish : some wrecks such as  Nabilla, Kim Kardashian, Loana, Lindsay lohan.. Does it really seem worthwhile ?

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Hi John,
Recently with the development news technologies, the celebrity culture is booming. I think it's unhealty, I have several examples to explain my thinking. First on sport, a young will be able to admire hundreds of videos of his favourite player through internet. He will try to look like the player he admires (same haircut, same style of dress). The problem is that it will reinforce the popularity of this person and reproduce all his actions. How many young people have knock on a football field because Cristiano Ronaldo did ? How insulted their partner because Mr untouchable Zlatan did ?
My other example concerning Andrew Wiggins a young player on NBA of 20 years. Since he as 12 years he is sponsored by major brands. It's a marketing product. He confessed on the website nba.com, he has suffered of this celibrity because he always had to be careful his actions.
My final example is the stupidity of television producers. I don't understand how it's possible to choose a person who doesn't the college patent as star of a show. Because of these people, many young girls have taken as a model and made suicide attempts when this uneducated stabbed her boyfriend.
All this means to me, the excesses of celebrity culture.

Hi John,
I think the celebrity culture is an important part of modern culture, celebrities are affecting the lives of people, especially in Asia, when we turn on the TV, or magazines, the great mass of advertisements now feature a celebrity, they will also use some social media to recommend some products from unknown brands, because the famous people are easily recognizable and attract consumer interest, they can bring attention to a brand in a way that no other type of advertising can. This is the power of celebrities. In China, we have an interesting phenomenon, because the South Korean drama is very popular in China, so their clothes and shoes, and even cosmetics are selling very well in the shopping site. For example, an YSL lipstick worn in the television series My Love from the Star sold out internationally.

I think the celebrity culture has affected our lifes a lot .
many Europeans luxury marques use the strategy of endorsement , especially celebrity endorsement , they often employee famous super stars or the celebrities to do the adversement on the tv show or on the poster in order to attract attention of the public
until now , in Chine many people become more and more rich , but they want to be recognized from the normal society people , they want the recognition and stand in the highest classe of hierarchy society , buying the luxury goods , put on a luxury seems they are very fashion and
like the celebrities
so the celebrity culture bring occasion for the business and also a fashion style for the modern life

Hi John,

Today we have seen a change of type of celebrity, there is a celebrity phenomenon. There are a few years ago politicians or singers were considered as celebrity. Today we saw this change, celebrities are richer person than before thanks to reality TV. They are now seeking to get noticed as soon as they can, often wildly such as haircuts.
However, these behaviors are very influential today , people are trying to look like them. I think sometimes they exceed the limits. However, they bring us some entertainment. This type of celebrity will continue to grow over time thanks to social networks and Internet.

I've had my haircut so maybe I could become a celebrity.

Hi everybody,

There's a fifty years, people became famous because they were doing something great or they excelled in sports, cinema, music or public something.
Today is different, some of those people call Celebrity are a set of simple-minded who are famous because they have shown their bodies, they participate in reality TV shows or because they made silly videos on youtube or on social networks.
Of course there is still that I call "real" celebrity related to movies or music and fortunately.

The problem is that many people draw one's inspiration from these people because they see them as God. These "celebrity" have become a hazard to our society by the image they refer.

Thank you.

Hi guys,
I will focus on those fucking tards on the internet.
With the popularity of youtube, a new kind of guys appears. They are sending pod cast talking about their life every day and they encounter a huge succes.
With more than a million a viewers , we can easily understand that they feel famous
They are invited to TV show , at the radio but in fact they really are nothing
I don't think having a lot of viewers is proove the artists quality. There is a lot of people like pierre who watch a lot of those bullshit.
i think celebrities are examples pouw les gens and i want great guys to do that!

It's unfair that soccerplayer win millons just to wear clothes but if we were them, have we got a different reaction? It's a big business, but we aren't better than them.

Personnaly I never see reality TV (as secret story, "Les chti à...", etc), I don't understant the concept, but if somebody understand, can he explains? It's too bad to see the impressive audiance of this emission.
When we see bullshit, it's just a distraction and we don't see trues problems in the world.

The real celebrities on Internet are cats.

Hi John

Hi John,
In my opinion, the celebrity culture have changed a lot during the past 10 years.
This changing are in the same way than the changes of our society. I want to say than medias and other ways of communication have changed a lot our point of view about celebrities.
Most of all, celebrities changed also atheir ways of communication... For exemple when they do selfie or if they published something every day on Facebook.

Hello,John
"Celebrity culture" has been a very controversial topic. Nowadays,Political leaders, stars are included in the celebrities.At this cultural transmission rapid social, celebrity culture has brought to our lives in different degrees influence.In my view,celebrity culture is a good thing and is also a bad thing.In modern,we consider the celebrity culture focused on stars who have a lot of fans.Indeed, some behaviors of celebrities could change our lifestyle, and even thought.For example, in China and even the world, some celebrities love to do charity for children in some poor areas of donations,like Michel Jackson,Cheng long (a famous Chinese Actor) . This star effect will drive fans to participate in activities together.Meanwhile, some fans will struggle celebrity as their pursuant goal.But at the other side,some celebrities have brought bad influences for us,just like Justin Bieber who become a famous star when he was very young , but in recent years has made a lot of things in violation of laws and regulations,like fighting ,disturbing residents which have a bad influence on the social.Star as a public figure who should always remind themselves to constrain their behavior.
To summarize,I think we should use dialectical perspective to look at the issue of celebrity culture.

Celebrities are nowadays like scapegoat ... People don't care about their existence because they just make fun of them. They don't care, but still watch TV and speak about them. As Antiquity, the arena is our TV, and fight are the mains facts about Celebrities Lives. I think they look like animals, they loose their humanity when they became icons who everyone can insult or judge.

The others, who have an unconditional love for this stars, can do anything for them even following their idols all over the world. Most of them, are teenagers. We can expect than these young idiots are ready to do the worst to exist for their gods. In this fact, we can mention the example of some groupies who commit suicide.

Theses persons are our future, they waste more time in front of their TV instead of a book.

Hi John,

Personally for me it's a celebrity football player who can make millions of children happy with his gestures like Ronaldo, an actor who can deliver an exceptional performance as Di Caprio or singer with legendary hits like Michael Jackson but certainly not a star of reality TV as Nabilla.

The "reality TV" delivers an artificial image and dummy of existence and of human relationships (false fraternities, tears staged, behavior calculated based on the camera ...). Moreover, there is no truth, all the emotions are produced or at least prepared to make the audience.

Associations are pointing the finger at the excesses of reality television (former candidates suicides, assaults on human dignity, low medical supervision ...) and its harmful effects on young people.
But these warnings are facing economic logic broadcasters and producers, for whom these programs are very lucrative.
I find it really disturbing that young people know better without interest as Nabilla some great men of history or ministers for example.

Starlets reality TV is not a good image for kids. Coarse language, vulgar gestures, or more or less visible manipulations can give a very bad example to follow.
I think some people deserve more than being famous than others. Nabilla made the buzz with his Hello, so that there are doctors who save lives in the world, people who give their money to help children in Africa, for example, and there is no recognition from the public.

But I'm not strict with the stars of reality TV because these programs are also dangerous for people who participate. The publc is cruel and relaxes very quickly, it can raise a celebrity one day and the day after nullifying. Because of this, some boy band singers such that met less success or stars of reality TV as Loana made depressions see what even suicide. It is especially condanmer the producers of these shows that are ready to broadcast anything to make money. A new reality show has just arrived in France, it is a reality show where people are naked, nothing further raise the level of the programs broadcast!

Hi John,
According to me, celebrity's culture is another world. Lots of people have “normal” life, and keep their private life.
However, some people (the celebrities) have less private life than other. A few years ago, they have less private life because they were famous, and “normal” people want to know everything about them, because they were respectable.
Nowadays, they have no private life because they want to show them, and to be seen. It’s a new kind of celebrities, known with tele reality for example. They have no particular talent, but they earn lots of money for nothing. It’s a bad example for the new generation, thinking that work is not important… Be famous allows to live, and everybody could be the new celebrity.