Week 4 discussion both groups and Change of Homework for 23/10/17

Next week you do not need to present ERP products and our discussion will not be about green packaging trends, instead we'll use that as the week's discussion topic online. So here I want you to give an example of ERP and discuss Green packaging trends - remember that you can imbed pictures and videos using the bar above.


Next week in class we are going to discuss Prostitution and Sexual harrassment. I want to start with Weinstein:timeline Who said what.
Then move onto broader Sexual harrassment: hand on boob  me too  music industry upskirting and then if we have time move onto prostitution and the question of whether it should be decriminalised and if not who should be prosecuted. Prostitution in Hull  no to decriminalisation  yes to decriminalisation yes and no

I'm sure you can find many other articles to comment on in class. The sexual harrassment part may look very one-sided but I'd like you to look at it from different angles including the male angle. Even something so clearly wrong as sexual harrassment is never as simple as it looks.

Hi guys !!
Hope you're doing well. We have so much work to do this week...!!! It's too much ! :'(

Concerning our subject here, I think these links could be useful for all of us, because they define what "ERP" means :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy-related_products / https://industries.ul.com/blog/energy-related-products-directive-erp-part-1-of-2 / https://youtu.be/x21yz7K6b2w
For instance, heaters and water heaters could be considered as ErP products.

Last Monday, we watched a video about "green packaging" trends. Remove, reduce, re-use, recycle... Nowadays, sustainability is more important than ever.
Thus, companies must use sustainable packaging for their products. Indeed, it is important for an organization to integrate the pillars of sustainable development in its overhall policy/strategy. Packaging can not escape to this pitfall. Stakes are huge, and the planet need us to avoid waste...
In addition, I think that consumers would not be disturbed by paying more for an environmentally friendly product.
For example, when I go shopping, I try to avoid buying products with many packages. In my view, it should be prohibited for a brand to market goods that excessively multiply packagings.
Forcing companies to adopt a social and environmental responsibility approach seems difficult yes, but laws should minimize the overconsumption of unnecessary packaging (some packs seem like Russian dolls sometimes!). This is just my opinion, but I, as far as I'm concerned, green packaging should be more encouraged and put forward, even if it involves "authoritarian" measures for compagnies.
What do you think about it ?
Have a nice day!

Hi,
I agree with you Céline, the idea of a regulation against excessive packaging seems good to me.
I would like to talk about a start up: "lemon tri". It is a concept that encourages people to reuse their bottles, cups and cans.This start-up has set up machines, which are installed in shopping centers, train stations ... They collect bottles, cans, and cups, and in exchange the users receive a voucher of 2 centimes per bottle collected ... Today there are more than 210 machines in France. This concept makes recycling more motivating for the public. Because vouchers can be accumulated and used in the stores of reception, like Carrfour, Intermarché, Auchan ...
These bottles are then recycled in t-shirts, bicycles or in hangers.
The idea is very good, it encourages recycling, and allows users to get used to reuse even outdisde their home.
Have a nice day.

Think that's a great idea. When I was a young boy we used to be able to take bottles back to the shop and get money for the empties. It was a great way to earn sweet money.

Hey,

I also believe brands make an excessive use of packaging in their products. And my impression is that most of them don’t really care about it, because by the economic point of view reinvent a new eco-friendly, biodegradable, green option is not very attractive. It’s a lot of money to be invested in research, development, and machinery that probably won't have a very significant impact in their profit.

So I agree with Céline about some government measure to force companies to stop the waste. I made some research and found out that several brands are already starting a movement to change the way they pack their products. Dell is replacing its packing material for biodegradable ones and by 2020 they expect to be using 100% sustainable packaging. Puma also started to test in 2010 a new kind of shoebox to eliminate the usual paper/plastic one (which is hard to recycle) to reinforce their strategic positioning to contribute to a better world. There are many more examples out there.



To conclude, I think the of edible packages are amazing. A lot of scientists are using their chemical knowledge to help the environment and reduce the amount of waste cause by the packaging. I saw this video some time ago and I was very impressed.



This is only one example of what they are trying to attend. There are a lot of “smart” packages that can protect the food and disappear when you decide to consume it. Here is one more example:



Let’s save the planet!

I have already heard of your example Mayra, the edible water but regarding the food! These are American scientists who have experimented with a milk protein, casein, and they discovered that this protein could create a packaging!

So this new plastic film is 100% edible! Unlike plastic, this new packaging is safe for the food in contact with this pack. Indeed, it's important to know that plastic packaging releases certain substances that are harmful to health and transmits them to food!

More over this invention would be 500 times more effective than plastic to conserve food! Because this film would better block the air and prevent oxidation! I heard it would be in shop within 3 years!

Another alternative is the biodegradable packaging, I heard about it on television, about a young Israeli company that manufactures packaging that break up in a few months only, called Tipa! This is amazing because it's difficult when you look the plastic packaging made by Tipa, to differentiate it from a conventional packaging but the difference is considerable! Once used, this packaging degrades itself only in six months. Where it takes hundreds of years for a classic packaging.

I love this subject, I love nature and I'm really concerned about news on green packaging! I can't support people who put food, pack and glass in the same bin... or people who abandoned waste on a beach after a picnic! Althought in 2050, there will be more pieces of plastic than fish in the ocean. Personally this doesn't prevent me to love the packaging, it's part of the product and I often buy according to the packaging but I pay attention to my waste, I like packaging collector like bottles of wine or cans, often I keep them;)

To join the comment of Marceline, I think the school could be equipped with a new machine to recycle our cups, the principle is the same as Casino, please have a look!

>> http://www.casinofrancaissanstelechargement.com/Gagner-le-jackpot-en-recyclant-son-gobelet-de-cafe.html

Mayra Fernandes wrote:Hey,

I also believe brands make an excessive use of packaging in their products. And my impression is that most of them don’t really care about it, because by the economic point of view reinvent a new eco-friendly, biodegradable, green option is not very attractive. It’s a lot of money to be invested in research, development, and machinery that probably won't have a very significant impact in their profit.

So I agree with Céline about some government measure to force companies to stop the waste. I made some research and found out that several brands are already starting a movement to change the way they pack their products. Dell is replacing its packing material for biodegradable ones and by 2020 they expect to be using 100% sustainable packaging. Puma also started to test in 2010 a new kind of shoebox to eliminate the usual paper/plastic one (which is hard to recycle) to reinforce their strategic positioning to contribute to a better world. There are many more examples out there.



To conclude, I think the of edible packages are amazing. A lot of scientists are using their chemical knowledge to help the environment and reduce the amount of waste cause by the packaging. I saw this video some time ago and I was very impressed.



This is only one example of what they are trying to attend. There are a lot of “smart” packages that can protect the food and disappear when you decide to consume it. Here is one more example:



Let’s save the planet!

Great videos.

The only problem I see with edible pakaging is that you 'll still end up with packaging for the packaging because would you really want to put something in your mouth that the shelf stcker at Lidl was touching ?

Melody Gazengel wrote:>> http://www.casinofrancaissanstelechargement.com/Gagner-le-jackpot-en-recyclant-son-gobelet-de-cafe.html

They have one of these in the ESPE snacks area near my office at the MdL. Certainly makes some people take their cups back. Personally think using your own cup/mug is better though.

Melody Gazengel wrote:>> http://www.casinofrancaissanstelechargement.com/Gagner-le-jackpot-en-recyclant-son-gobelet-de-cafe.html

I have already seen this concept in my old school ..! I find it convenient, because with the large number of students who take coffee / chocolate or consume, it allows to do a good action while earning some money.

About this subject, I find it sensitive. Because, I agree on the fact that the "green packaging" is important for the sustainable development which becomes a recurrent and essential theme in our society. In fact, this year's COP 23 will perhaps target this topic.




However, it is delicate, because companies will not all agree to adopt this behavior of the "green".

But according to a study : 9 million people die each year due to pollution around the world. So in our consumption, let us reduce this figure...!

Hi, 

Mayra, I know this concept "Scientists have created edible water", I think it's very ingenious (but I think it causes several problems: health, storage...) especially when you know how plastic bottles are problematic.
I found an infographic about that, it is very interesting:
https://www.banthebottle.net/articles/think-before-you-drink-infographic/

My opinion is, it is useful to improve new packaging but the most important is that company stops to selling product with too many packaging. For example, McDonald's, I think they are the worst, too many packaging for just food, and they don't recycle every time.

I found a company " Terracycle" who uses packaging that you can't recycle and it produces different things with this, for example, pencil case, backpack, ball...


Actually, the best packaging in the world, it is this man who creates an edible box for pizza, he is a genius!

I like to see initiatives like that, the pizza box is hilarious, still very appetizing. We still can act at our individual scale, but i think one day we'll have to pay for others mistakes. I really want to engage myself in changing how my peers consume (i'll start from there), test solutions to reduce their impact without altering their quality of life. I think its hard for us to change radically the way we consume, but it's our mission to set path for future generations.

Following the Kyoto protocol the European Union has set a target to reduce energy consumption. For buildings the target is set at a 20% reduction by 2020 (https://goo.gl/uVRCDJ) . I think that one day, non-conventional equipment (less than 400 kW generators, water heaters and water storage balloons under 439 galons) https://goo.gl/9dDQMx will be wiped out without you even noticed it ! These electric meters that we have in France (Linky) know exactly how your ERP products behave and Electricité de France (EDF) could charge you for use of bad equipment.... Sure, labels help choosing the best product, but one day, the government will charge us because we were not environmentally-friendly consuming. Remember my prediction : Financial incentives will be set for us and the industry. (yeah let's not forget the Industrial sectors which uses Energy Related Products)


Next time, i'll be giving my point of view about green packaging.




https://www.saunierduval.fr/particulier/actualites/focus-ecologie/erp/

Admin wrote:

Mayra Fernandes wrote:Hey,

I also believe brands make an excessive use of packaging in their products. And my impression is that most of them don’t really care about it, because by the economic point of view reinvent a new eco-friendly, biodegradable, green option is not very attractive. It’s a lot of money to be invested in research, development, and machinery that probably won't have a very significant impact in their profit.

So I agree with Céline about some government measure to force companies to stop the waste. I made some research and found out that several brands are already starting a movement to change the way they pack their products. Dell is replacing its packing material for biodegradable ones and by 2020 they expect to be using 100% sustainable packaging. Puma also started to test in 2010 a new kind of shoebox to eliminate the usual paper/plastic one (which is hard to recycle) to reinforce their strategic positioning to contribute to a better world. There are many more examples out there.



To conclude, I think the of edible packages are amazing. A lot of scientists are using their chemical knowledge to help the environment and reduce the amount of waste cause by the packaging. I saw this video some time ago and I was very impressed.



This is only one example of what they are trying to attend. There are a lot of “smart” packages that can protect the food and disappear when you decide to consume it. Here is one more example:



Let’s save the planet!

Great videos.

The only problem I see with edible pakaging is that you 'll still end up with packaging for the packaging because would you really want to put something in your mouth that the shelf stcker at Lidl was touching ?

I think another drowback with the edible packages is that it's very difficult to transport, because it's seems very fragile..

Hi there,
I agree with you Tom, using too much packages has a great impact on the planet, but there is another problem about whom less is said : the impact of the packaging/containers on our health. I don't know if you have heard of that but a study showed that baby bottles contains Bisphenol A which can be very toxic for humans.

All your ideas to reduce the impact of packaging are very interesting ! For my part I find very interesting the invention of the bioplastic bottle which is the first bottle 100% biodegradable (without bisphenol A) and biodegrates rapidly in the nature. Indeed, plastic bottles are an environmental AND visual pollution, especially in the oceans.

In another way I believe that we can act in an easy way, consume less. For example we can begin with stopping to buy useless stuff which is reduce packaging indirectly.. And we can consume better and smarter. For example, when I go home, I use to go in a chinese and buy takeaways, then y I bring my own containers to avoid consume more packaging ! it's not complicated and cost anything but it shows that we can act easily at our level. Another example is to buy products with a better quality so you buy less... In this way, there is a shop called By me once which guarantee to its clients that its products have a lifelong process.

In this way, if you want to consume better, and do something for oceans, I recommended you the Two Third brand which is a basque clothing brand who makes bags with recycled fishing nets etc etc and pledges to return 10% of its turnover to the association of the ocean preservation (and do so many other cool things ).

Hi,
I agree with all you said, using too much packages or create too much waste has a great impact on the planet.
But, some people try to create new product or new way of proceeding.

Today, I would like to talk you about the Renu Herbs ecological project. I will start with some general informations : Renu Herbs was funded by an american woman Robin Anthony. According to Robin Anthony the toxins are everywere, in the food we eat, the clothes we wear, and the air we breathe. Toxins are responsible for the tiredness and discontent.

To repair the damage, Robin creates Renu Herbs Brand, a Detox Tea to help eliminate toxins in the system and clean blood in the body. Her detox tea contains seven medicinal herbs that identify the toxins and eliminate them.

Robin needs a label design for her new product that she launched : she wants create a packaging in agreement with her lifestyle, her detox program and her stategic position. She hopes an ecological packaging.

Her packaging presents green and brown colour like the nature. She has a suggestion for an eco-friendly concept and respect for the environment : she incorporates seeds ready to be germinate insite the tea bag. The tea boiling water activate the germination. You have just to plant the tea bag and you get the same medicinal herb in your garden.

It's a beautiful project because you give back to the nature what the nature makes a gift to you, like a kind of acknowledgement of its generosity.

Hello,

I will talk about the differents trends that the companies try to follow nowadays.
Here is the an interesting illustration



You can see that the sustainable packaging is a growing industry because nowadays, everyone wants to have a better consumption that not harm the planet.




Here is the how the companies make efforts in the sustainable packaging. It's important for them because they also recognized consumers and how sustainability affects their ourchase behaviour. Some studies shows that consumers are willing to pay more for a product with sustainable packaging.
I think the label must be more clearer. Be honest with consumers with more transparency to inform them what they really buy.

Tom Malgorn wrote:Hi, 

Mayra, I know this concept "Scientists have created edible water", I think it's very ingenious (but I think it causes several problems: health, storage...) especially when you know how plastic bottles are problematic.
I found an infographic about that, it is very interesting:
https://www.banthebottle.net/articles/think-before-you-drink-infographic/

My opinion is, it is useful to improve new packaging but the most important is that company stops to selling product with too many packaging. For example, McDonald's, I think they are the worst, too many packaging for just food, and they don't recycle every time.

I found a company " Terracycle" who uses packaging that you can't recycle and it produces different things with this, for example, pencil case, backpack, ball...


Actually, the best packaging in the world, it is this man who creates an edible box for pizza, he is a genius!

This pizza packaging seems really good to eat but what if it rains ? I don't think it'll be really that good anymore !

you'd have to eat it before you left the shop.

Hello
Like of all you, I think that industries use too many packaging, in particular for cakes with their freshness-preserving pack. I am sure that industries can find alternative packaging for a lot of products. For example, I found on the Internet those reusable packagings:




These packagings are good for the company because it makes people buy thanks to their innovative products. And for consumers, these packagings have several functions so it is convenient for them. Obviously, it is a good thing for the planet because packaging is not thrown away which reduces waste and pollution.

I have heard of your example too Mayra. I think it's a great idea but how can we keep it in a bag for example ? So if we need to transport these water balls, we have to use another packaging to protect them. But in my opinion, that's still a good idea, and that's sound inventive.

Some people should be as smart as these people whom has developed these water balls. Indeed, in United-States we can see stores with peeled oranges in plastic box...  



That's an example of people whom hasn't understand how important is "green packaging". Moreover, oranges has already a natural peel, so, why remove this peel to add an other protection ? That's not economic, not respectful for the environnement. That's the total opposite of ERP or green packaging.

To offset with your arguments about ecological project for example, you have to know that lot of industries don't pay any attention to the differents way to improve their ecological footprint.

You can tell me if you have already heard about these products, and maybe expose me the advantages of these kinds of packaging and how can we change that to improve the environnemental aspect. Have a nice day !!

Marion Le Moullec wrote:Hi,
I agree with all you said, using too much packages or create too much waste has a great impact on the planet.
But, some people try to create new product or new way of proceeding.

Today, I would like to talk you about the Renu Herbs ecological project.  I will start with some general informations : Renu Herbs was funded by an american woman Robin Anthony. According to Robin Anthony the toxins are everywere, in the food we eat, the clothes we wear, and the air we breathe.  Toxins are responsible for the tiredness and discontent.

To repair the damage, Robin creates Renu Herbs Brand, a Detox Tea  to help eliminate toxins in the system and clean blood in the body. Her detox tea contains  seven medicinal herbs that identify the toxins and eliminate them.

Robin needs a label design for her new product that she launched : she wants create a packaging in agreement with her lifestyle, her detox program and her stategic position. She hopes an ecological packaging.

Her packaging presents green and brown colour like the nature. She has a suggestion for an eco-friendly concept and respect for the environment :  she incorporates seeds ready to be germinate insite the tea bag. The tea boiling water activate the germination. You have just to plant the tea bag and you get the same medicinal herb in your garden.

It's a beautiful project because you give back to the nature what the nature makes a gift to you, like a kind of acknowledgement of its generosity.

It seems so cool ! Does it really work (eliminate toxins) ?
It's a really good idea, the possibility to plant the tea bag and get the herb !

Hi guys !

So many possibilities to stop the pollution !
Does someone know Algopack ? (maybe not, so I'm gonna explain what it is )
As you may know, in Brittany we've got a lot of seaweed. Rémy Lucas, an engineer, found a way to transform it in a bioplastic, and named it Algopack ! 100% biodegradable !


(Sorry french video, I didn't find the equivalent in english)

Helloo!

It is really interesting to see how smart your ideas and exemples are about reducing the impact of packaging on environnment and health!

To be honest, I didn't realize how many measures were took to improve the way companies use packaging before integrating this master, but i remember that last year, when I was studying Italian, we worked on a video showing a woman who opened a store in Italy where people can buy shower gel, laundry detergent and dishwashing liquid but without the packaging.

The concept is simple : you go to the store with your own bottle that you re-use everytime you come and you fill it with anything you need! It is just like the bulk materials you can find in the organic section of the supermarket but instead of buying nuts, almonds or green lentils, you buy  soap or conditioner, just as you Clemence when you go to buy Chinese food with your own containers!

The seller even says in the interview that some of her most faithful customers had been using the same bottle for more than a year and a half!

In my opinion, it is a very interesting idea but, as the seller says, there are still a lot of customers who don't trust her products because there is no packaging, we still have a long way to go before seing a real evolution in the mentalities.

Here's the link if your're curious, it is in Italian but you'll still be able to see how the concept works : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq_AUyGfwqU

I wish you all a lovely weekend!

Hello everyone!

Eco-friendly packaging is not just about minimizing the amount of wrapping, it also includes package design and green materials use, processing as well as the entire product lifecycle. So, the best packaging is no packaging, it’s hardly possible to refuse wrapping at all. We live in a consumer society and make purchases on a daily basis. Every hour we bring home tons of packaged products from supermarkets or receive them via delivery services. Almost all goods we buy are supplied in some form of packaging, that not only keeps the contents in a good condition but defines brands and provides necessary product info.

However, no one cannot ignore the threat posed by plastic packaging to the environment. Scientists have already denounced plastic as a long-term pollutant because it is not fully biodegrade.

I have found interesting these packaging.