discussion 3 Group B

Yes Manon you really talk a lot today xD


So this week the topic is Dating Apps,

Hum, what can i said...

I find it sad that in our society we do everything with technologies, even to find love.
I believe that Dating Apps are false and that we don't need this type of Apps to find love.
In these kinds of applications people can lie: they can lie on their picture or on their life etc.

Do you see yourself explaining to your children that you met their father through a Dating Apps (if it really works) ? Personally, I much prefer the version of my parents who met each others when they were windsurfing teachers on the beach in Bretagne (France ahah). I know that it could give the impression to be too smooth (like what happens in movies) or what ever but it's much more real (there is no fake), it's life what !

thanks for your support Caroline .. xD

I understand your version about Dating apps.

Even if i've never used this type of apps, i've seen my friends use it. And to be honest, it was always in order to enjoy and like a play for them. I think that it can be "funny" if you know the risk that meeting people virtually can involve. But, of course, it could be not funny if you are really in search of the love or if you believe all of people said in this type of application. The deception could be tough.

I'm a little bit desesparated by the apps which have the same principe than Tinder for exemple. The fact to see a big number of pictures of woman or man and to swipe it to say if you find this people beautiful ... Really ? What is beyond the image like that? Don't give reason to our parents please.
This really gives a bad image of our society, image society of "be beautiful and shut up". We don't necessarily trust that this kind of application is really unfortunate for our society.

Do you want to know if the person who interests you is near you ?
Geolocated applications like Happn can tell you that.
This kind of application scares me. They can cause really regrettable effects. A mental patient can follow you through the application for example and know where you live.

To conclude, I think dating apps can be fun, allows to meet people we would never have met otherwise, if we say what to expose and how to protect ourselves.
On the other hand, I think these applications reflect a reality: we have never been so connected and yet we have never been so alone. (to meditate!)

I think it's important to keep on going to share moments with friends, share parties, restaurants, etc. without staying behind his phone.

Hi !
I totally agree with you Caroline and Manon !

I think that dating apps correspond perfectly with the bad evolution of our society. Now you can do all you want to do with your smartphone like pay in a shop and find love (even if I don’t think it works). Today young people are raised with new technologies and they think that we can’t find love or someone without an apps. It’s so bad.

The new technologies transforms relations between people. In fact, I think that people are bored in a relationship more easily than many years ago. When a couple have a fight, before, they made a lot of things to settle that, but now, by the way of this dating apps, they can meet other people easily and they don’t want to fix their problems. Moreover I think that development of dating apps encourage to the adultery too.

So you understand that I’m not a big fan of Dating Apps. I never use dating apps, but to say something positive in my post I think dating apps allow to meet a lot of people, maybe not love but maybe friends!

PS : Caroline your parent’s meeting is so cute and beautiful!

Hi everybody

I have never use a dating apps. I agree with Marina, I think the dating apps serves to meet friend and not the real love. But I think some persons are of exceptions and meets their partner on a dating apps.

You have to be careful because each dating apps not have the same signification and doesn't research the same thing. For example, Tinder for me it's just an apps to find a partner of sex. And an other example with Reel me, the meetings are done directly in video. Even the profile is interactive and asks the user to shoot a mini-sequence to introduce themselves. This dating app promises to be more honnest.

I think there are an other problem in the society because when you doesn't in couple, the rest of the population wants you see with someone. I think than it's for that that there have been the creation of dating sites.

It's my point of view.

To conclude, I think the lovers relationship are more sincerely if she are in the real life and not virtually.

Hi everyone,
I have a very contradictory opinion about dating apps. Indeed I have many friends who met their boy/girlfriend on Tinder or others but I don't think that it matches my personality. Some are still together, some broke up and I do know two that are getting married next May...
So one thing is sure, you can meet the love of your life on Tinder. I just believe that it's not for everyone and I respect all opinions on that. I'm happy as long as people are happy. So of course you're thinking "what are they gonna tell the kids?" well the truth sounds good. And it might not seen romantic today but it might be in a few years (or decades)(not that romance or the way you meet is all that matters). Nowadays it can be so hard to just meet someone or trust someone. Like if you don't meet someone at work or in class or at sport then where? We're living in a very complex time so I guess that we need to live with the technologies and for some people dating apps are ok and that's cool.

Concerning my personal history, I've actually tried several dating apps through the past few years (once, happn and Tinder), never really seriously and I've seen all kind of profiles from the "I'll send you dick pics without your approval" to true gentlemen. I've personally never gave it a true shot because I feel weird talking to strangers through a screen (but I won't meet someone I don't know --> see the problem here?)
So now I still have Tinder on my phone but I barely use it or mostly when I am really bored or with friends who wanna see how it's like.

Hi dear classmates,

i agree with you !
nowadays we live in a society where everything has lost the original value.

Who would have ever thought that we would have reached the point to express our interest toward a person through a thumb on his/her photo profile?

Logically thinking, one can also say '' today the world has changed and therefore also the ways to meet people have changed '' perhaps '' the love '', but I do not agree.

I personally would never meet a person with whom i only spoke online or a person that i just meet on a meeting app. How can i know that it's not a crazy person behind the screen of his phone? That's why i think they are complety useless and i avoid to use them.

Just last week i was on my facebook home and i saw a post saying "dating apps have killed romance". Well i complety agree with this.

How can you be sure that anyone you meet face to face is not a crazy person? And maybe then it's too late....

That's the point John, you can never be sure of the person you meet. More than stupid, dating apps are dangerous (that's my opinion)

In my young and stupid days (I think I was 14 or 15 years old), I used it once with a friend, but It was just to laugh a little. I have never started again the experience.

Like the majority of you, I find dating apps sad. For me, LOVE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH NEW TECHNOLOGIES.

Nowadays, like you do your shopping at the supermarket, you can do your shopping on the market love online.

Beyond that, I think that you don't have to search love, it is a thing that bump into you, and when it happens, it's magical. Moreover, falling in love is due to 80% to the eye contact (yeah, I believe in the love at first sight, I lived it )

So, you have understood, the concept of "love market" is a thing that I can't bear

Hello everybody !

I'm happy to talk about Dating Apps because I thinks they're a lot of things to say about it.
I tried a lot of Dating Apps like Tinder, Lovoo, Fruitz, Happn, Once and others and I did an internship in a Dating App in development.
With my experience, I agree with Amélie, I know a lot of couples who met each others in this kind of apps and I thinked "If it worked for them, what about me ?" but I quickly realized that I mostly prefer meet in person in the real life with the surprise effect and take the time to discover each other. In these apps, it's totally different, the system is reducing because we have to "select" people according their physical appearence and we know that men are waiting only thing : SEX !!! They're like dogs who just wanting their bone to eat and that's it. It's so sad. The most pathetic thing is that men doesn't know how to take a good picture (this ability is a reducing criteria too) and they doesn't know how to seduce too ! It's always the same things "Hey girl ", "So you're the perfect woman !", "How to resist you ahah", and so on, they're so predictable and it's hopeless.
I met a lot of people thanks to these apps and each time I just doesn't get the feeling, this one thing which change a simple date in a extraordinary moment. Sometimes I just wanted to have fun and so, have sex. But these experience helped me to understand what I really want in a relationship and I was surprise to discover that I am more romantic than I thinked.
I still prefer real dates and every time I met a person in reality, it was really nice !

In an other way, today, people are more and more connected and I'm not surprise to see couple formed in this way. It's sad because we will not have the same story than our parents or grandparents about our future husband, it's not as authentic. Women became more and more hard to please because of the feminism movement and the #MeToo movement, and men are less and less confident about seduction because they don't know what women want in this century and their place in the couple is changing.
I thinks that we are witness of a real change in relationships, the role of each other are redefined and we don't know how to adapt to it yet, this is why it's so difficult today to find love.

They're a lot of aspects in Dating Apps to discover and explains like the concept of "love market" that Pauline talked about, the differences between women and men's maturity and what men and women are expecting about love today, they're a lot of things that can explain the success of these app and how that fail for some people.

Personnaly, I'm still waiting Love with a big L ^^ with or without Dating Apps

Hi guys !

First of all I LOVE this subject !!

Maybe I'm in ancient times but I totaly disagree the way to find your love in social media. It's show that the world in which we live its around sex. Intimate relationships have changed, and I find this really sad because we haven't private life.
First for young people like us, we must not need dating Apps to find love. We are young and we need to be social, speak with others, and if a girl or a boy likes you, go talk to him directly !!! However, I can understand people who are shy, and that they will not approach a girl or a boy they like. So Interent helps these people.
We have also older people who don't have many opportunities to find love and for them I think it's good, because they can meet new people easer and maybe finding in love
I have never used these apps and I hope never to use them because it's sad and absolutly not natural.
And John I agree with your question "How can you be sure that anyone you meet face to face is not a crazy person ?", we can't, I think you can jut hope that is not a crazy person....

Have a good week-end

Hi everybody !

I don't have opinion about this. Everybody is free to use or not to use dating app because. I don't want and I don't like to judge people about this. Tastes, hobbies or whatever you want are subjectives and even if there are things that I don't like I don't think that I am able to judge about it. The only thing I can say is that you need to be careful when you are using this kind of app or everything that deals with social media because you never know who you are going to talk with. Moreover, the age is really important and a security should be made about this because some teenagers don't even realize how dangerous this kind of application can be because. Just like you said John, some people are crazy and their crazinesses can bring to the worst thing.

Have a good weekend everybody !

Hello everyone !

I Think it's waste of time , I mean that in the previous years could also be fine use dating apps but now they are just mouse traps and shop windows.

The most absurd thing about the Internet is that although the purpose is to encourage meetings and contacts between people, the Internet has created the opposite effect, is a support zone where to showcase and wait without doing anything concrete.

in my opinion is better to use this site as a pastime and to think very well before meeting a person known in certain dating apps . Then everyone can think of it as he wants, but in my opinion these relationships in which we know each other online never work, at least from my experience.

PS: Mr. Jhon finally I'm doing my homework

Yo ! Time to add my little partcipation to this discussion hihi.

Honestly, i'm not really interested by Dating App, and i never tried to use any of them, and probably never will, as i'm not really looking for this kind of things. However, i find it really interesting how many people are using them and why they are.
Unlike some, i don't think using a dating app is "bad", or "sad". When you think about it, it is just another way to meet someone, i mean, back then people just used their relatives or friend to meet someone, and it still happens today. You could argue that "yeah its more real or more romantic this way", but I don't think so. It is just a different kind of network, know what i mean ?
And...Dating App didn't really changed anything. The world has always revolved around sex, and its not dating app that changed this fact. Even before dating app people would meet just to have sex, let's be honest. Humanity really DIDN'T need Dating App to do these kind of things haha. And the same applies to appearances. Beauty has always been important in society. Social Media sure helped this obsession to develop, but it did not create it. Everyone is looking for someone they find handsome or beautiful. And we all have our own criterias. I don't mean that people only want to date super duper good looking human-beings no, but a minimun is required, isn't it? Honestly, would you date someone who doesn't take care of themselves ? Who doesn't bathe ?
About the whole "yeah what do you do if this person is crazy", the same goes if you meet someone you don't know in real life, and you start dating them and all... i mean...Be careful, even if you met this person in flesh, you never know what they could be hiding, seriously. I agree that Dating App should prioritise security (especially for young people), but real life is as threatening as the online life.
Amélie said that :

So of course you're thinking "what are they gonna tell the kids?" well the truth sounds good. And it might not seen romantic today but it might be in a few years (or decades)(not that romance or the way you meet is all that matters)

And I totally agree with her on that point. Today, we are thinking that meeting through dating apps is not romantic at all because of the influence of our parents/ grandparents, but that's all. Tomorrow, it might become normal, and even...romantic. Lets' not forget that romanticism evolves with generations, it changes. What is romantic today might not be romantic tomorrow, or the other way 'round.

Of course, this is my humble opinion, and i totally understand that people could not agree with that. And its fine.

Enjoy the rest of your week-end guys, and see ya on Monday ! ^^

Hi everyone !

I thinking like Blong... I don't care, people used Dating App or not, it's their life ^^
I don't know Dating App ... So, I don't criticise knowing really
Perhaps is good, perhaps is bad, depend of people.
For me,I prefer seing merchandise, so I don't sure Dating App is probleme about commodation and select about physical appearence... Because it's same in real... First you look at around you, second you see people who you like for his physical, third you speak with (or not if you shy ) and John, we can come across crazy people everywhere ! (for example in english lesson  )

Dating App or not, it's same, love is complicate XD ! Except with you  !!! <3

FLEGEAU PAULINE wrote:Hi everyone !

and John, we can come across crazy people everywhere ! (for example in english lesson  )

Hi Pauline, I think you're being a little hard on Blong. He may be a little strange but I don't think he's crazy. Still you know him better than I do.

I've never used a dating ap or website - I've been married for longer than they've been around, so I don't know if I would've used them or not. I know of many young people who use Tinder and that seems to be more for a quick sexual experience than a long term relationship. That's fair enough as long as both parties are aware. It's probably safer than a one night stand with someone you meet in a night club and a lot less "complicated" than a one night stand with someone you know well and see often. I also know some older, divorced people who are no longer in the right circles to meet a lot of people for a relationship who use websites and aps (perhaps aimed at a more professional person) for "dates" or possibly longer term relationships.

I don't find it strange or frighteneing at all to use technology to help you find "love" or just someone to spend time with.

Yes John !!
we can meet crazy people every where . I met a lot of crazy people in my life that now i don't even notice them .
But how we can then distinguish the good people if we assume that everyone is crazy?!
Life is becoming more and more hard

Hi John !
About part for meet crazy people... My last post was not aiming people in particularly You chose I spoke of Blong !! XD

It's not strange to use technology to help their for find love, it's just an other manner. People to choose what they prefer, because I don't have opinion about this.

Iman, I think everyone is crazy, there is just different crazy degrees !!! Find crazy people like you are crazy ^^

FLEGEAU PAULINE wrote:Hi John !
About part for meet crazy people... My last post was not aiming people in particularly You chose I spoke of Blong !! XD

It's not strange to use technology to help their for find love, it's just an other manner. People to choose what they prefer, because I don't have opinion about this.

Iman, I think everyone is crazy, there is just different crazy degrees !!! Find crazy people like you are crazy ^^

Hi Pauline

I know you didn't mean Blong. I was just playing a game. We all know that Blong is much less crazy than Emeline.

Hello everyone!

I didn’t realize how fast this week passed that’s why I am answering right now

First of all I would like to thank personally Chloe for the sexism that she expressed.You're very kind Chloe.I am speaking for the following sentences:

¨we know that men are waiting only thing : SEX !!! They're like dogs who just wanting their bone to eat and that's it. It's so sad. The most pathetic thing is that men doesn't know how to take a good picture (this ability is a reducing criteria too) and they doesn't know how to seduce too ! It's always the same things "Hey girl  ", "So you're the perfect woman !", "How to resist you ahah", and so on, they're so predictable and it's hopeless. ¨

Am I the only one who noticed it?
Anyway no harm feelings, I am sure that you don't mean it Chloe.

Concerning dating apps I didn't use in the past and I won't do in the future.
In Greece there aren't so popular but here especially tinder is very popular.I heard for it already 3 times.
I didn't have a story to tell you about a dating app so I don't like dating apps as an idea and I don't like any app that consists the communication, though I can understand their utility.
Imagine that before came in France I didn't use any social media application for about a year and a half. I didn't have even facebook. I opened it here because of its utility.

Anyway I believe with the dating apps we loose the magic of the moment and the personal contact. We are becoming introverted and isolated and we loose our self-confidence.
There are very beautiful and important moments when we meet someone.Such as the anxiety and the courage when you speak with someone you like for the first time, the flirt, the embarrassment and the heartbit with the possibility of a first kiss.
I'm sorry but we can't change them with any app,so I am totally contrary.

I know you didn't mean Blong. I was just playing a game. We all know that Blong is much less crazy than Emeline. Twisted Evil

And may i know what makes you say that siiiiiir ?

Babis Papageorgiou wrote:Hello everyone!

I didn’t realize how fast this week passed that’s why I am answering right now

First of all I would like to thank personally Chloe for the sexism that she expressed.You're very kind Chloe.I am speaking for the following sentences:

¨we know that men are waiting only thing : SEX !!! They're like dogs who just wanting their bone to eat and that's it. It's so sad. The most pathetic thing is that men doesn't know how to take a good picture (this ability is a reducing criteria too) and they doesn't know how to seduce too ! It's always the same things "Hey girl  ", "So you're the perfect woman !", "How to resist you ahah", and so on, they're so predictable and it's hopeless. ¨

Am I the only one who noticed it?
Anyway no harm feelings, I am sure that you don't mean it Chloe.

Concerning dating apps I didn't use in the past and I won't do in the future.
In Greece there aren't so popular but here especially tinder is very popular.I heard for it already 3 times.
I didn't have a story to tell you about a dating app so I don't like dating apps as an idea and I don't like any app that consists the communication, though I can understand their utility.
Imagine that before came in France I didn't use any social media application for about a year and a half. I didn't have even facebook. I opened it here because of its utility.

Anyway I believe with the dating apps we loose the magic of the moment and the personal contact. We are becoming introverted and isolated and we loose our self-confidence.
There are very beautiful and important moments when we meet someone.Such as the anxiety and the courage when you speak with someone you like for the first time, the flirt, the embarrassment and the heartbit with the possibility of a first kiss.
I'm sorry but we can't change them with any app,so I am totally contrary.

Babis, Can Chloe's comments be sexist even if they are facts?

Not everyone is a Greek god, some people (and I'm not talking about victor necessarily) need a variety of ways to meet girls or boys (no sexism from me).

Good morning sir. I'm just speaking about the expression and the certain words.
Imagine me saying in a blog full of women that in dating apps all girls are bitches,are arrogant etc. I am sure,after that my nickname would be misogynist.
I didn't accuse people who use dating apps neither I spoke about facts. Even all men are like Chloe said we can't put all people in the same box.Some of them have manners and some trying to find love. There are always exceptions.
Blong you have to choose a side. haha

iman ghouzi wrote:Hi dear classmates,

i agree with you !
nowadays we live in a society where everything has lost the original value.

Who would have ever thought that we would have reached the point to express our interest toward a person through a thumb on his/her photo profile?

Logically thinking, one can also say '' today the world has changed and therefore also the ways to meet people have changed '' perhaps '' the love '', but I do not agree.

I personally would never meet a person with whom i only spoke online or a person that i just meet on a meeting app. How can i know that it's not a crazy person behind the screen of his phone? That's why i think they are complety useless and i avoid to use them.

Just last week i was on my facebook home and i saw a post saying "dating apps have killed romance". Well i complety agree with this.

Hey everybody^^! Iman I'm really interested by what you said. I agree with the fact that love has change and lost its true value. But I don't think that dating apps are useless, I just think they are not necessary. I mean even if we don't have dating apps it'is possible to find true love it depends of our choices, of our personnality and a little bit of luck. Therefore, some people have issues finding love because they're shy or not confidentfor exemple, and I guess that sometime dating apps can help them. They're people who don't like to speak or who just freeze in front of ther and maybe, dating apps help them to gain some confidence by writting before they meet the one they'are interested in.

Of course, I don't think that dating apps like Tinder were made for people with no confidence, and looking for "true love". I also don't like the fact that we have to swipe people and judging them jut by their beauty. I think it shows how much some people have a high opinion of themselves. Sometimes I'm watching people on Tinder and I hear them say " no, ugly, pff,ew" and at that moment I'm just thinking "girl, do you really think you're that beautiful to call a boy like that ugly"?

I'm gonna stop here today. Thank you for reading John.