Week 3 - Cinema and TV Series

by **Admin** Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:14 am

I guess you can tell each other what you watch, what you like and dislike etc... maybe you can look at the economic, political etc... effects of the industry or maybe talk about it's part in sexism, racism, liberalisation ... or maybe the power of TV to manipulate a population and it's thinking. Is it a medium that brings equality or hatred? Who holds the power?

by Arnaud H Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:57 am

I saw a preview in Poitiers, of a science-fiction movie, a dystopia to be exact, named Virtual Revolution. There was a woman to give flyers about this movie, and this preview was the only way to see it, there was only this session in Poitiers. It really took me away, in an other world. It requires a lot of means to do a science-fiction movie ; but Guy-Roger Duvert succeeded to make the movie with (only) 1 million dollar. He is the scenarist, the compositor, the producer. The actors, from Denmark, Canada and the U.S. came to support the movie.
All this little story to introduce my opinion about the industry of cinema today :
I find that movies today got no soul.
They have special effects, the best actors, a very good marketing campaign, but no desire to support the movie, just the desire of selling it in the best way.
Obviously, it's not the same thing for all movies, but the industry of cinema just promotes those movies.
They use the same recipe to be sure to have good results.
There is a lack of originality and a lot of little projects don't come to an end.

Tell me if you like a movie which didn't get enough attention.
Kiss

by zonglin Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:47 am

Hello everyone,
These day I’m watching an old TV series <<breaking bad>>, I think that most of people have watched this series. It’s a story about Walter White, who is a chemistry teacher of high school. After he was diagnosed with lung cancer, he decided to earn the money for his family, so he started producing and selling crystallized methamphetamine.
I was watching in English version with Chinese subtitle. So it can help me to accumulate some vocabularies in English.
What’s your favorite TV series ?

Have a nice weekend !

by CHARLES Denis Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:20 pm

The film that I want to talk is "Her" realised by Spike Jonze. The film follows a man who develops a relationship with an intelligent computer operating system personified through a female voice. I choose this film because is probably the one which questionned me the most.
Subjects like new technologies (for example how far our dependence to this machines is), interactions with other people (in real and on the internet) and deep feelings (lonelyness, sadness) are discussed.
The evolution of the main character is very impresive and keeps you out of breath.
Realisation also is very beautiful thanks for instance to remarkable landscape and great ideas of plans.

Have you seen this movies ? Or others movies of the film director ?

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by Céline Mille Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:06 pm

Hi!
My favorite TV series is Desperate Housewives, but I'll talk about this on the other forum. Consequently, today I prefer to talk about the power of TV to manipulate a population and its thinking.
In my mind, news are not addressed in a neutral way, and this fact can influence viewers. Firstly, the press sorts news according to their interests while some important information are not mentioned on TV. That’s why it’s important for me to have various information sources, to compare different views. Internet is an additional information available to us. But let us be realistic, we are in a country where TV news aren’t really controlled by State. For example, North Korea has a State TV which overestimates Kim Jung-un.
What do you think about the power of TV to manipulate a population?

by Agathe NEGRONI Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:41 pm

Hi everyone,
I would like to talk about the cultural domination of the USA through the cinema industry. We all know that the American cinema is one of the most powerful industry in the world, and this big industry has its « quirks ». Whether we like it or not, we’re all American in a certain way, because we have grown up in this culture : who has never seen a Disney movie or an American blockbuster like Avatar or Titanic ?
The problem is that these cultural works, which are broadcasted by the US, are never neutral and there is always a message : on a political point of view, the US are always the « nice one » who are fighting their enemies, the « bad ones » in their movies (depending on the period) : the Russians during the Cold War, the Arabs, etc…and many American movies related this : Rocky 4, True Lies,…
The Americans always remind their navel-gazing side in their movies too : the Aliens only attack the USA and not the rest of the world, as natural disasters.
To finish, as a huge fan of the serie Desperate Housewives, I would like to say that American movies/series constantly sell us their American dream by showing us the perfect life : a big and beautiful house, a luxury car and all of the things we are all dreaming of.

by Emma Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:04 am

Hello everybody,
talking about cinema industry I would like to share what I recently discovered via social medias, in fact some actresses went out of silence bringing the fact that, Harvey Wheinsten, a famous Hollywood producer sexually harassed them many times or abused or raped them like they couldn't get the roles they wanted in other ways when it came to work with him on a film? What really pissed me of is that Twitter suspended the account of one of these actresses, Rose McGowan because she rightfully twitted about her story with this man. Many sensitive subject are allowed on Twitter why not this one? Seems like some medias want to cover and minimize real problems because certainly there are told to do so... Otherwise i cannot understand.
Sexual harassement is a real big problem but when it comes to these huge industries, like Hollywood, everything is maintained under silence, the female or even male victims cannot talk about it cause they are, in certain ways, oblige to keep their mouths closed. When they "override the power" that is what happen and this is not correct.

by HUANG Jing Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:55 pm

Hello!
The movie that i want to talk about name Wall Street. This is a story of a young struggling stock trader who is looking for shortcuts in the market and ways to get rich quick. The most prominent theme throughout this film is greed. Like the dialogue says “ Greed is good.”, we can know that every dream has a price. Eventhough it’s talk about economie, i think we can learn more about human nature from this movie.
We konw that Wall Street is called the leading financial center of the world. Most people have a burning ambition to find a job here. But the competition is very fierce and very unforgiving. Business is a competitive activity. That,s true.

by L.M. Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:13 pm

Hello !
In my opinion the best movies were the ’90s movies, with many great classics. I like the Tarantino’s, Nolan’s, Fisher’s and Scorsese’s films. My favorite series are The Pretender, Breaking Bad, Sherlock Holmes and Narcos to name just a few.
I totally agree with Agathe. The enemies are always russian, chinese or arabs. These guys are often sexually obsessed, wicked, dangerous, incompetent, weak and incapable. When there is a movie with germans, there are always nazis. The asians people are always the martials arts profesionnals. The italians are all parts of mafia. The latinos people are violent. The natives americans are living in a indian reserves and speak wih many expressions… The americains movies broadcast a lot of cliches and obviously we are manipulate by those films.

by wenhaoyi meng Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:17 pm

Hi
I have just watched a movie called Gerald Games(It scares me，it scares an adult man even if it
wasn’t a horror film ).For no spoiler,I could just tell you this is a story about a woman faced the deepest fear of her own and overcome the fear.One woman with handcuffs,a wolfy dog,and“death”, in that kind of situation what illusion you will fall into？Highly recommend at weekend night.（oh forget about TD Monday morning）
And I’m catching Southpark latest series，A great satire animation but now with the taste of a little bit of love drama..how could this show does sarcasm for the shooting case,I wonder..

by wenhaoyi meng Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:21 pm

HUANG Jing wrote:Hello!
The movie that i want to talk about name Wall Street. This is a story of a young struggling stock trader who is looking for shortcuts in the market and ways to get rich quick. The most prominent theme throughout this film is greed. Like the dialogue says “ Greed is good.”, we can know that every dream has a price. Eventhough it’s talk about economie, i think we can learn more about human nature from this movie.
We konw that Wall Street is called the leading financial center of the world. Most people have a burning ambition to find a job here. But the competition is very fierce and very unforgiving. Business is a competitive activity. That,s true.

Try Big Short.Same type of movie but great.I know you want to be rich quickly.just like me.

by Mahiedine Fruchard Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:31 pm

Hi everyone,

Zonglin already talked about Breaking Bad but I want to add that the show isn't just about drugs or money. It’s about human psychology, the psychological development of characters is the most important. Nothing is left to chance in the show, with this incredible script. You will not be able to recognize Walter White at the final season. Besides, Bryan Cranston was just the best actor I’ve ever seen, his acting was really amazing. Who could have imagined « Hall » in Malcolm perform in BB ? Not me it’s sure …
The first time I saw BB, I just said to my self, « It’s too slowly! » and I stopped watching. After one or two years I don’t really know why but I start again the show. Then I realised that BB need time to perfecty develop characters psychology. All details matter, every characters had an influence on the story of Walter and Jesse. Moreover I just want to insist on the the final season who is just the best, far away from the past four seasons with a lot of action ... Especially the final episode but I can’t say any more Smile

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I just don’t understand why the show has been distributed on Arte in France ? Maybe the Frensh have issues with series who need to be follow. They prefer CSI: Crime Scene Investigation x) ?

BB will be for me (thanks to Bryan Cranston and scriptwriter) the best show I’ve ever seen. I know that it’s difficult to compare series but she is on the top .. Even if the last season of Game of Thrones was just crazy … Wink

Bye

by Lauralee G Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:57 pm

Hi everyone !
I would like to talk to you about cinema censorship. We speak of several kinds, more or less visible: political, economic, military, judicial, religious, moral censorship ...
The avowed motives are the same everywhere, always:
- the maintenance of public order (political, economic and social)
- safeguarding the interests of the State (especially in times of war)
- compliance with accepted standards of behavior (sexual, family, social ...)
- respect for religion
- the protection of young people.
But there are also unavowed motives: the religious motive may also be political, political censorship may have economic back-thinking.

Some examples of censored films:
- Da Vinci Code directed by Ron Howard and released in 2006
Prohibited in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Iran, Sri Lanka, the Samoa Islands and parts of India because of its religious purpose.
- Made in France directed by Nicolas Boukhrief and released in 2015
Its scenario recalling the attacks of the 13th of November in France, coincidence has made that it leaves at about the same time. Broadcast in cinemas canceled.

by Rosh LOUKOU Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:43 pm

Hi Everybody

The movie that I saw last week is called The babysitter. The beginning is very attrative with a nice babysitter then a kid very derided by some people in his own street. The kid would have as girlfriend his babysitter.
The middle part is awful. In fact, This girl babysitter named Bee has a project : kill all Kid where there's not a Family-view (presence). She and Killer's Friend have as aim expand profond sadly to different parents that let's their Kids under surveillance from the Babysitter.
The end, The Kid become a Hero. He make it to kill all detrators towards simple technics from parents advice and science fiction movie that loved.

Just before the complete end : He said to his parents : "I think that, now I don't need babysitter"

This word very interpellate me. I think that movies today have a great role in human's behaviors. It's very sad and sometimes insane.
Some movies have positive impacts on humans (by example the impact of science fiction on the kid) and others no.
This american movie "The babysitter" according to me devaluate the babysitter importance in the society nowadays. They certainly want make big afraid in worldwide people.

It's not also insane from them. I saw some little video on social network is about a young girl beat without limit and ashame a little girl because she is quiet (baby lost a big time to the young girl) thanks to camera let's by parents, she's made a long live in prison.

In conclusion, concerning babysitter phenomene, make attention. All babysitters aren't bad or devil but we must make attention.

Thanks Wink

by Omer C Karadag Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:09 am

Hi,
We can say that the cinema industry have a real power. Indeed in 80’s, through the film « Midnight express » by Oliver Stone, Turkey had disastrous consequencies about the tourism industry ant its reputation.
The story tells about an American Billi Hayes who is arrested with 2 kgs of drugs in Istanbul and his time in jail. Through this story, several xenephobic insults are dedicated against the Turkish people, the legal system is called into question with the corruption of the lawyers and judges or still the Turks were seeing like sadistic, corrupt
Despite the mea culpa of the producer Oliver Stone about the overstatement of the scenes’ film, this country had some troubles about his relations With The West and his tourism industry.

by Khiet Bang Nguyen Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:23 am

Hello everyone!

Sciences always attract me somehow. I am especially interested in the movie talking about the space travel. The Earth can not exist forever, in billions years, the death of the Sun will put an end to mankind. So, the space travel can help us find out another green planet somewhere in the universe.

My favorite film is "Interstellar". Joseph Cooper, the main character, is a former NASA pilot. One day, his daughter and he discover a coordinate which takes them to a secret NASA facility. At that time, a series of crop blights and dust storms on Earth threatens humanity's survival. Joseph decides to join a group of astronauts who will travel through a wormhole in search of a new home for humanity. Because the time in space and the time in the Earth are not the same, Joseph always want to finish this travel as soon as possible to go home, but he can't. When he come back, his daughter is even older than him. For him, it takes only one or two years for this trip but his daughter takes all her life to wait on him. Then, his daughter has gone, but, Joseph have to continue his mission.

Throught this film, we can see that what we do nowaday will give our descendant to death. The scientist never stop finding another planet for life because they all know humans are destroying the mother nature by pollutions, trees cutting, creation of factories,...etc...

"We used to look up at the sky and wonder at our place in the stars. Now we just look down, and worry about our place in the dirt."

For those who want some romantic points, I recommend you the film "Passengers" whose story depicts two people, Jim and Aurora, who are awakened some 90 years too soon from an induced hibernation on a spaceship bound for a new planet. They discover a series of holes through the ship's hull from the meteor collision which damaged the ship very badly. After have fixed the ship, Jim finds out how to put Aurora into the hibernation again, in other word, he will sacrifice his life in this spaceship, give Aurora another chance to see the new world. But, Aurora refuses it, she choose to stay with Jim. 90 years later, the rest of 5,000 colonists and 258 crew members are awakened, they discover the small house with trees inside the spaceship and the audio of Aurora's diary.

by Louis Nicolas Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:24 pm

I'm not really following any TV show these days. But I am religiously watching Last Week Tonight, and I highly recommend it to everyone. It's a weekly late night show that airs on HBO every Sunday, and it's hosted by English comedian John Oliver. Every week they do deep dives into touchy political or economic topics that usually don't get covered by the media. It's funny, it's interesting, and it's ridiculous. This show provided me a lot of information for work I had to do for university, on Donald Trump, on the press crisis and North Korea. It's a pretty awesome combination of entertainment and education. This episode was about the Equifax hack that compromised the security of 135 million americans, and how ridiculously incompetent the Equifax team are.

The showrunners aren't exactly afraid of getting in trouble in ridiculous ways. They went to Russia to interview Edward Snowden without warning anyone, not even HBO. They created their own church. John is currently getting sued by coal magnate Bob Murray. In his show he showed how Murray used a tragedy in one of his coal mine to push his political agenda, while making his own miners less secure. Also he called him a "geriatric Doctor Evil" and asked him to eat shit, and Bob didn't like it much.

The show won the Emmy for Outstanding Variety Talk Series twice in a row, and the show has recently been renewed for 3 more seasons.

As for cinema, I'm planning on watching Bladerunner 2049, I love cyberpunk vibes and I heard a lot of good about the movie so I'm probably gonna watch it this week.

by Arthur Lombard Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:06 pm

Hi,

I personaly like sci-fi, action and comedy movies. I especially like Christopher Nolan's work, that's why my favorite films are Dunkirk and the 3 batman he produced. But I hate horror movies, because I watch films in order to chill and relax, not to experience fear. However, I cant really criticize movies, because I'm a good spectator (I enjoy each films I watch or almost, and I'm almost always satisfied to watch a movie). I go to the cinema like 5 or 6 times a year, which is not really often ! I also like series, such as The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad (the BEST SERIE EVER), How I met your mother...

In order to talk about other things than my personal tastes in terms of movie, I will now talk about the power of money in this industry. The cinema industry is stiring a lot of money, billions of dollars. When you know that the most expensive film produced was Pirate of the Caribbean, with a cost of production of 300 000 000 millions US dollars, you understand what I meant by "a lot of money" !!! I think it is impressive that this industry is stiring that much money. I think the main reason to this is because cinema has became so popular that producers don't count the money, because they want to reach the biggest success.

I think too that the 7th art is needed by people, because it can bring messages and remind people some event that they tend to forget. I talk about the war films, which are action movies, yes, but they have a duty of reminder too.

So in conclusion, cinema is really important nowadays, because of its impact on our society. And because it brings feelings which are (according to myself...) better than watching a weird paint in a museum...

by Elise Maret Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:50 pm

Hello,

Like Céline my favorite serie is Desperate housewives and I also like a lot Friends.

I think cinema allows to express some points of view about a lot of subjects and freedom expression.
We can spend a message about political, social or others subjects. However, in certain countries censorship still exist when the movie disturbs some people (politics for example).
I also think that american movies and the power of Hollywood are to impressive. So we don't know enough movies from other countries.

by Céline Métais Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:53 pm

Hi !
Today, Hollywood dominates the movie market at international level with 80% of market shares. It’s difficult to compete with these larger-budget productions. In action movies, the stunts are ever more spectaculars with phenomenal special effects. The Americanization of the society explains this phenomenon, but this dominance is questioned…
With Bollywood movies, Indian cinema stands up to Hollywood in its country. 200 movies are produced every year and movies at a low cost (around 20 million).

by FLEURENTIN Jealex Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:23 pm

Hello,

I think the tv's industries has lot of influence on the population, particularly the person of low spirit because they can't to do the difference enter movies and reality or movies and virtual world.
This person can reproduce exactly what his has seen in movie for example the shutting in the street or in the festival.
Always is a terrorism act but sometimes it's the person with the mental problem.
There are a good point in the tv's industries, sometimes it shows us something who we can't see in the world and the media didn’t show us like poverty in some countries or the civil wars in the city.
There are lot of good point but I can't tell all.

by kamel khedim Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:47 pm

Hi guys,
I have discovered an interested serie which names House of Cards. It deals about the corruption and malignant schemes inside the USA government. President Walker has just been elected thanks the fabulous campaign refereed by Franck Underwood the head of the Democrat party. This last would hope a post of State secretary promised by the Gareth Walker who doesn’t take account.
Thus, Underwood and his wife decide to get even and target the post of Walker.

by Arnaud M Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:37 pm

Hello everyone,

I’m not a big fan of cinema. I don’t have a favorite actor or a favorite director but I like to watch a movie just to have fun. I didn’t watch many series but when I subscribed to Netflix I started watching them. I like movie or series with action, investigation, historical aspect… Concerning series, I have loved "The Musketeers" by Adrian Hodges and "Mentalist" by Bruno Heller : "The Musketeers" because I like the book of Alexandre Dumas "The Three Musketeers" iven if it don’t the same story the scenario is great and the costume are splendid and "Mentalist" because it’s a detective serie and I adore the character of Jane who is very interesting.

About informations given by audiovual industry is a good way to be advised but like every medias it’s important to cross informations with other sources. Especially on television where it’s even easier to speak rubbish than to write them like in newspaper.

by Mathilda Joyeux Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:32 pm

Hi everyone !
I watch a lot of TV series but I can say that "How to get away with murder" is my favorite. It's talking about manipulation, murder, law etc. But I will speak about this in the other forum.

As you know, Hollywood is probably the most important place of entertainment in the world and the most popular so they have a big influence on the population. For example, during Cold War, producers, directors and politicians used movies made in Hollywood to give negative messages onto the Russians and their communism by showing them as the villians (and it's always the case). They used Hollywood to propagandize.
Behind movies or TV series, there are always political opinion and sometimes manipulations of the viewers.

Movies and series have always a message behind and is often denunciations. For example, in Jaws, Spielberg denounces the republican values of the USA who doesn't hesitate " to make sacrifices " for economic reasons. The shark which represents the USA, kills people but to keep tourism's activities safe, authorities and politicians let the population go to the beach, bathe while it's dangerous.

by Jake Needham Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:37 pm

Louis Nicolas wrote:I'm not really following any TV show these days. But I am religiously watching Last Week Tonight, and I highly recommend it to everyone. It's a weekly late night show that airs on HBO every Sunday, and it's hosted by English comedian John Oliver. Every week they do deep dives into touchy political or economic topics that usually don't get covered by the media. It's funny, it's interesting, and it's ridiculous. This show provided me a lot of information for work I had to do for university, on Donald Trump, on the press crisis and North Korea. It's a pretty awesome combination of entertainment and education. This episode was about the Equifax hack that compromised the security of 135 million americans, and how ridiculously incompetent the Equifax team are.

The showrunners aren't exactly afraid of getting in trouble in ridiculous ways. They went to Russia to interview Edward Snowden without warning anyone, not even HBO. They created their own church. John is currently getting sued by coal magnate Bob Murray. In his show he showed how Murray used a tragedy in one of his coal mine to push his political agenda, while making his own miners less secure. Also he called him a "geriatric Doctor Evil" and asked him to eat shit, and Bob didn't like it much.

The show won the Emmy for Outstanding Variety Talk Series twice in a row, and the show has recently been renewed for 3 more seasons.

As for cinema, I'm planning on watching Bladerunner 2049, I love cyberpunk vibes and I heard a lot of good about the movie so I'm probably gonna watch it this week.

Hey everyone,
I have to back Louis up for this show. The guy is absolutely amazing and touches on some of the most taboo subjects around and isn't scared to say what he has in mind. Another show on the same sort of concept is The Daily show by Trevor Noah on youtube. Sort of the same principal, talking about taboo subjects, but sometimes it's just some messing around.
But one of my all time favorite shows is Mr Robot. It's about this mentally deranged computer hacker, who struggles with the daily routine, IE: the consumer world we live in, political corruption, etc. Really interesting for anybody who wants a different view on the world we live in today, a real eye opener.
Have a nice night,
See you all tomorrow!

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