Week 3 discussion - Innovations
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Week 3 discussion - Innovations
Hello !
I'm going to talk about my opinion about innovations.
To me, innovation plays a major role for our economies, and that is what allows countries to develop them and it's useful to access to new things. Innovations are therefore incontrovertible to change our economies, but today we are in a phase where innovations are no longer really major (like steam engines, computers) but are only minor and they look more like improvements than real innovations.
I also think that some innovations are more of a step backwards: for example, all innovations concerning the automatic control of machines (automatic cash registers, automatic machines, etc.) make regress the evolution because they deprive individuals of a job or reflection (the Internet) and thus promote unemployment or intellectual regression. It can be noted that the generations that arrive are very focused on the electronics and forget the social relations and live only of "virtual" relationships. So,I think that some innovations, too advanced, will in the long term make regress the countries (and especially the individuals) in the sense that the intelligence will be artificial and not real.
I'm going to talk about my opinion about innovations.
To me, innovation plays a major role for our economies, and that is what allows countries to develop them and it's useful to access to new things. Innovations are therefore incontrovertible to change our economies, but today we are in a phase where innovations are no longer really major (like steam engines, computers) but are only minor and they look more like improvements than real innovations.
I also think that some innovations are more of a step backwards: for example, all innovations concerning the automatic control of machines (automatic cash registers, automatic machines, etc.) make regress the evolution because they deprive individuals of a job or reflection (the Internet) and thus promote unemployment or intellectual regression. It can be noted that the generations that arrive are very focused on the electronics and forget the social relations and live only of "virtual" relationships. So,I think that some innovations, too advanced, will in the long term make regress the countries (and especially the individuals) in the sense that the intelligence will be artificial and not real.
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I agree with your point of you, but innovations are necessary for developpement!!!
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But what about Schumpeter and his "creative destruction"?
He said that innovation only creates unemployment in the short term but in the long term it makes it equal as it was before.
He said that innovation only creates unemployment in the short term but in the long term it makes it equal as it was before.
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Yesterday I saw an article in the Internet about a guy who conceived an electric wagon. It's a french innovation. And he says that we can go at the supermarket to do shopping with. But the price is high because he is a young entrepreneur so it's complicated to have money when it's the beginning.
http://www.20minutes.fr/economie/2150047-20171012-nord-trottinette-electrique-transforme-chariot-faire-courses
http://www.20minutes.fr/economie/2150047-20171012-nord-trottinette-electrique-transforme-chariot-faire-courses
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hello, if we talk about innovation this let me present you a great idea. I m in UE libre sustainable development and i wish to work in this field in my futur. In this subject we must think about a real project. So, we would like to instal cycle into the faculty. Why ? these cycles will be for several aspect, your health and also for ecology. Because those one will allow you to charge your phone during your pedaling. This innovation already exist into some train station in France but not in others places. We would like submite this idea at the faculty of Poitier for our project this week. It's just a idea because we must submit a innovation linked with the sustainable development but i wanted to talk about that. There is one company who supply this product for this moment it's "we.watt" and the product is called "we.bike". I let you an article in french
http://www.20minutes.fr/nantes/1518423-20150115-nantes-gare-pedale-recharger-portable
http://www.20minutes.fr/nantes/1518423-20150115-nantes-gare-pedale-recharger-portable
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Hello! One of my favourite recent innovation is the 3D printing.
Because this invention is an unending source of innovation and creativity in almost all sectors, from the medical industry with the low cost 3D printed prothesis to the automobile industry with 3D printed car, by going through the controversial 3D printed handgun.
Moreover it's a pretty cool thing when you like the "Do It Yourself", you can change plastic in almost all of what you need.
Recently this technology became available to all : you can have cheap access to great 3D printers via printing companies or you can buy 3D printer for approximately 300€.
enjoy few exemples of 3D printed things :
a top 10 https://3dprint.com/87806/10-coolest-3d-prints/
a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSu19nz7NlE
Because this invention is an unending source of innovation and creativity in almost all sectors, from the medical industry with the low cost 3D printed prothesis to the automobile industry with 3D printed car, by going through the controversial 3D printed handgun.
Moreover it's a pretty cool thing when you like the "Do It Yourself", you can change plastic in almost all of what you need.
Recently this technology became available to all : you can have cheap access to great 3D printers via printing companies or you can buy 3D printer for approximately 300€.
enjoy few exemples of 3D printed things :
a top 10 https://3dprint.com/87806/10-coolest-3d-prints/
a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSu19nz7NlE
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As we live in a technology world with different new gadgets, inventions appear every day that helps us to move forward. A couple of years ago, wireless charging was invented to help recharge the smartphone from a distance and we already have the opportunity to buy them at various online stores. I heard that it also allows to charge several devices at the same time. I don't have this yet, but I think that it is very cool! because today the charging ends very quickly, and this is personally my problem:)
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Hum, now I see that everybody are marked and agree with technology inventions.
This is just the begining of the end... Believe me! Ok environment innovation is the good way to improve our society, our economy, the way of life, and I am totally agree with this kind of innovation.
But, if you talk about technology inventions, I'm on the same way as Ms Brandy and I really think social connection is going more less and less.
However, I'm still loving high technology and social networks, it's great ! ^^
This is just the begining of the end... Believe me! Ok environment innovation is the good way to improve our society, our economy, the way of life, and I am totally agree with this kind of innovation.
But, if you talk about technology inventions, I'm on the same way as Ms Brandy and I really think social connection is going more less and less.
However, I'm still loving high technology and social networks, it's great ! ^^
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Hi !
I think innovation is not only about technology ! Innovation can be social, commercial, organizational or financial !
For example, the case of the collaborative platforms like AirBnb or Blablacar. These applications use technology but these innovations are not technologics ! With an app on your smartphone and you can find a home or a car for your travel. These two greats innovations have changed our habits and developped a new type of economy : the collaborative economy !
Have a good day ! Allez l’OM
I think innovation is not only about technology ! Innovation can be social, commercial, organizational or financial !
For example, the case of the collaborative platforms like AirBnb or Blablacar. These applications use technology but these innovations are not technologics ! With an app on your smartphone and you can find a home or a car for your travel. These two greats innovations have changed our habits and developped a new type of economy : the collaborative economy !
Have a good day ! Allez l’OM
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It is true that the innovation is important. But are according to me more important than of other one. Or new IPhones X, for me it is an innovation which has no interest and the future did not find in the mobiles of Appeal.
But the future is on the renewable energies or still the engines with hydrogen which would be a real to move forward, against the pollutions.
You also think that there is innovation more important than of other one?
https://www.franceculture.fr/economie/batteries-electriques-qui-remportera-la-bataille
But the future is on the renewable energies or still the engines with hydrogen which would be a real to move forward, against the pollutions.
You also think that there is innovation more important than of other one?
https://www.franceculture.fr/economie/batteries-electriques-qui-remportera-la-bataille
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Previously you most talked about technological innovation, but there is other area where there is. An innovation is the introduction of something new in order to improve a product or a service in a given field (technological, institutional, organizational, etc.)
So I think there are more important innovations than others, especially in the health field, such as deep brain stimulation against several diseases.
https://www.frm.org/stimulation-cerebrale-profonde-revolution-en-marche
So I think there are more important innovations than others, especially in the health field, such as deep brain stimulation against several diseases.
https://www.frm.org/stimulation-cerebrale-profonde-revolution-en-marche
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Joseph Boursier wrote:Hello! One of my favourite recent innovation is the 3D printing.
Because this invention is an unending source of innovation and creativity in almost all sectors, from the medical industry with the low cost 3D printed prothesis to the automobile industry with 3D printed car, by going through the controversial 3D printed handgun.
Moreover it's a pretty cool thing when you like the "Do It Yourself", you can change plastic in almost all of what you need.
Recently this technology became available to all : you can have cheap access to great 3D printers via printing companies or you can buy 3D printer for approximately 300€.
enjoy few exemples of 3D printed things :
a top 10 https://3dprint.com/87806/10-coolest-3d-prints/
a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSu19nz7NlE
I'm agree with you, these innovation are so useful and great ! My father work in a compagny that use 3D printed to create prothesis for people which are amputated. He create feet, hands or legs ! For example, it's him who created hands for Philippe Croizon, to help him to drive his car (it's not a joke, Philippe Croizon can drive without his real hands), he created in addition his prothesis to link the 4 continents to the swim (I think you've heard about that !)
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Hello everybody,
For me, a innovation it's a idea is going to revolutionize a given sector.
Not so long ago, i reading an article in the paper witch speaking the houses in impression 3D. I am talking about this innovation because when I was at college, while I was doing a "Génie Mécanique et Productique" at Nantes University, I worked on this project with Benoit Furet who was my former professor. I think that this innovation is going to be revolutionary for the world of architecture and for the constrution industry !!!
https://www.ouest-france.fr/pays-de-la-loire/nantes-44000/innovation-les-murs-d-une-maison-construits-en-impression-3d-nantes-5243303
http://www.bfmtv.com/mediaplayer/video/une-maison-imprimee-en-3d-a-nantes-982047.html
For me, a innovation it's a idea is going to revolutionize a given sector.
Not so long ago, i reading an article in the paper witch speaking the houses in impression 3D. I am talking about this innovation because when I was at college, while I was doing a "Génie Mécanique et Productique" at Nantes University, I worked on this project with Benoit Furet who was my former professor. I think that this innovation is going to be revolutionary for the world of architecture and for the constrution industry !!!
https://www.ouest-france.fr/pays-de-la-loire/nantes-44000/innovation-les-murs-d-une-maison-construits-en-impression-3d-nantes-5243303
http://www.bfmtv.com/mediaplayer/video/une-maison-imprimee-en-3d-a-nantes-982047.html
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Eric CHOLLET wrote:Hi !
I think innovation is not only about technology ! Innovation can be social, commercial, organizational or financial !
For example, the case of the collaborative platforms like AirBnb or Blablacar. These applications use technology but these innovations are not technologics ! With an app on your smartphone and you can find a home or a car for your travel. These two greats innovations have changed our habits and developped a new type of economy : the collaborative economy !
Have a good day ! Allez l’OM
Great point. (not the OM bit).
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For me, the innovation is essential in our life. Those who we are most interested today, those are technology innovations. These innovations are sometimes useless but some can save lives in the medical field.
Today, innovation is a central topic for large companies in order to increase their market share and number of customers.
Great point guy.
Today, innovation is a central topic for large companies in order to increase their market share and number of customers.
Eric CHOLLET wrote:Allez l’OM
Great point guy.
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Hey,
To me, the innovation is important, but not necessary. There are a lot of topics to talk about innovations, so I choose the consequence of innovation on the people Before, we come in mode of consommations of mass, I don't think we really need. The innovations is way to simply our lifestyle. Now, we have everything just next to us. There are two ways to see Innovation. First, the innovation generate bad consequences on the people, we don't think, we don't need to think. The world become surface. However, it permit to handicap people to give a second chance, for exemple with the technologie developed for the blind people and this it's totally different.
Someone don't agree ?
To me, the innovation is important, but not necessary. There are a lot of topics to talk about innovations, so I choose the consequence of innovation on the people Before, we come in mode of consommations of mass, I don't think we really need. The innovations is way to simply our lifestyle. Now, we have everything just next to us. There are two ways to see Innovation. First, the innovation generate bad consequences on the people, we don't think, we don't need to think. The world become surface. However, it permit to handicap people to give a second chance, for exemple with the technologie developed for the blind people and this it's totally different.
Someone don't agree ?
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Concerning innovation i think that Eric has reason, we haven't to see that only with an technological point of view but also more generally we can considerate also the social innovation, organizational innovation, financial innovation, political innovation.
As i read in an article, sometimes, innovations are the consequences of science-fiction movies for example the creation of tablets, overboards, instant messaging, 3D printers and a lot of others products and services.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/kasiagalazka/science-fiction-things-that-actually-exist-now?utm_term=.vb9mKGZld#.hkl3y8V2X
As i read in an article, sometimes, innovations are the consequences of science-fiction movies for example the creation of tablets, overboards, instant messaging, 3D printers and a lot of others products and services.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/kasiagalazka/science-fiction-things-that-actually-exist-now?utm_term=.vb9mKGZld#.hkl3y8V2X
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Innovation will allow us to see Leicester getting 0 point at home in HD and that is a good point
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Corentin Eberle wrote:Innovation will allow us to see Leicester getting 0 point at home in HD and that is a good point
illegal streaming will prove you wrong. 6 points off 5th with a game in hand.
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As far as I'm concerned , I think that innovation is a very important key for any company in order to face competition which invades our modern economy.
In fact , in our globalized world innovation still remains a competitive advantage , that can allow companies to be leaders in their sectors ,and to practise the non-price competitiveness , for example the companies will stress on the quality of the product , or its packaging etc..
Nowadays a lot of industrialized countries make big efforts to develop and encourage innovation inside companies , and this by creating clusters , and financing R&D policies .
Innovation is undoutedly the key for the long term growth .
Of course , as Eric says innovation can be used in a lot of other sectors .
In fact , in our globalized world innovation still remains a competitive advantage , that can allow companies to be leaders in their sectors ,and to practise the non-price competitiveness , for example the companies will stress on the quality of the product , or its packaging etc..
Nowadays a lot of industrialized countries make big efforts to develop and encourage innovation inside companies , and this by creating clusters , and financing R&D policies .
Innovation is undoutedly the key for the long term growth .
Of course , as Eric says innovation can be used in a lot of other sectors .
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One of the subjects that I am closely following these days is the news about the Hyperloop project. If I accord great interest to this project it’s mainly because I am interested about the character behind this idea, Elon Musk. Elon Musk is one of the scarce, unavoidable and one of the major innovative entrepreneurs of our century established in the technological sector. CEO of Tesla, Space X and CTO, this eternal dreamer wants to improve the life of the human beings, save the humankind by trying to send them to Mars by 2022, protect the nature by creating the energy of the future and many other ambitions. Hence, the hyperloop will probably be the fastest travelling system after the plane. To illustrate, passengers will be able to travel from Washington to New York within 29 minutes. Besides this first transportation system, he has also imagined several other alternatives, the ability to travel by rockets or by tunnels to avoid jams.
Thus, he’s a true visionary and dreamer; he’s constantly trying to imagine how the future could look like.
One of his secrets to improve technology is to bring great people together who share the same will and work hard to make it better.
Another subject that I want to discuss is artificial intelligence. We can notice this coming innovation just by using our phones. Just say “Ok google” or “Say Siri”, the voice recognizer will answer automatically, you will hear how artificial intelligence sounds like. This technology sounds crazy. It’s just a matter of time before we will have robots featured with artificial intelligence just like in the science fiction films such as I-Robot. Even though, the idea sounds exciting and futuristic numerous issues can be quoted like ; what will happen if one day this artificial intelligence becomes more clever than a human brain ? What happens if we can’t control it ? Or even if we can, what happens if it’s in the hands of malicious people ? Despite the better offs that we can find in innovation we will always find people who want to use it negatively.
All these innovations are just a logical step forward of everything that we can see around us. We used to have trains, now we have the hyperloops, we used to have computers, now we have artificial intelligence, we don’t even need to type it on a keyboard anymore. Until we have one human being on this world, who has the dreaming capacity and the ambition to change the world, we wouldn’t be able to stop innovation because innovation is what keeps us alive.
By reading your topics, it’s true that we don’t see a technological revolution every morning but several small every day. These small cluster of innovations always finish to a large technological revolution and vice versa.
Until then...
Thus, he’s a true visionary and dreamer; he’s constantly trying to imagine how the future could look like.
One of his secrets to improve technology is to bring great people together who share the same will and work hard to make it better.
Another subject that I want to discuss is artificial intelligence. We can notice this coming innovation just by using our phones. Just say “Ok google” or “Say Siri”, the voice recognizer will answer automatically, you will hear how artificial intelligence sounds like. This technology sounds crazy. It’s just a matter of time before we will have robots featured with artificial intelligence just like in the science fiction films such as I-Robot. Even though, the idea sounds exciting and futuristic numerous issues can be quoted like ; what will happen if one day this artificial intelligence becomes more clever than a human brain ? What happens if we can’t control it ? Or even if we can, what happens if it’s in the hands of malicious people ? Despite the better offs that we can find in innovation we will always find people who want to use it negatively.
All these innovations are just a logical step forward of everything that we can see around us. We used to have trains, now we have the hyperloops, we used to have computers, now we have artificial intelligence, we don’t even need to type it on a keyboard anymore. Until we have one human being on this world, who has the dreaming capacity and the ambition to change the world, we wouldn’t be able to stop innovation because innovation is what keeps us alive.
By reading your topics, it’s true that we don’t see a technological revolution every morning but several small every day. These small cluster of innovations always finish to a large technological revolution and vice versa.
Until then...
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Hello !
For me, the innovation is really important in the current economy. Indeed, it is necessary for all the companies to innovate because people always want more.
I chose the example of Michelin. Last week, I went to the Michelin museum in Clermont Ferrand. That was really interesting and playful.
The invention of tires was an incredible innovation in the 70's. Only a few people believe in the project and, today, every cars, motorcycles or trucks have Michelin products. For me, that was an incredible innovation.
In my mind, today it's more difficult to innovate beacause I have the impression that everything was already invented..
For me, the innovation is really important in the current economy. Indeed, it is necessary for all the companies to innovate because people always want more.
I chose the example of Michelin. Last week, I went to the Michelin museum in Clermont Ferrand. That was really interesting and playful.
The invention of tires was an incredible innovation in the 70's. Only a few people believe in the project and, today, every cars, motorcycles or trucks have Michelin products. For me, that was an incredible innovation.
In my mind, today it's more difficult to innovate beacause I have the impression that everything was already invented..
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Hi,
Innovation has improved the quality of movies. We went from black and white movies to 3D movies ! The same for cars, before we had cars with steam engines which only could go at 60km/h. Now, we have electric cars which go over 130Km/h for 400km.
I agree with the people who said technology is good for productivity and competitivity for businesses.
But technology, especially computers, have problems in my hands. So for me, it's more a headache than time-saving...
Innovation has improved the quality of movies. We went from black and white movies to 3D movies ! The same for cars, before we had cars with steam engines which only could go at 60km/h. Now, we have electric cars which go over 130Km/h for 400km.
I agree with the people who said technology is good for productivity and competitivity for businesses.
But technology, especially computers, have problems in my hands. So for me, it's more a headache than time-saving...
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Flavie BRISSE wrote:Hi,
Innovation has improved the quality of movies. We went from black and white movies to 3D movies ! The same for cars, before we had cars with steam engines which only could go at 60km/h. Now, we have electric cars which go over 130Km/h for 400km.
I agree with the people who said technology is good for productivity and competitivity for businesses.
But technology, especially computers, have problems in my hands. So for me, it's more a headache than time-saving...
I was born before computers and I can promise you that they are wonderful, wonderful inventions/innovations.
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Ali Dmn wrote:One of the subjects that I am closely following these days is the news about the Hyperloop project. If I accord great interest to this project it’s mainly because I am interested about the character behind this idea, Elon Musk. Elon Musk is one of the scarce, unavoidable and one of the major innovative entrepreneurs of our century established in the technological sector. CEO of Tesla, Space X and CTO, this eternal dreamer wants to improve the life of the human beings, save the humankind by trying to send them to Mars by 2022, protect the nature by creating the energy of the future and many other ambitions. Hence, the hyperloop will probably be the fastest travelling system after the plane. To illustrate, passengers will be able to travel from Washington to New York within 29 minutes. Besides this first transportation system, he has also imagined several other alternatives, the ability to travel by rockets or by tunnels to avoid jams.
Thus, he’s a true visionary and dreamer; he’s constantly trying to imagine how the future could look like.
One of his secrets to improve technology is to bring great people together who share the same will and work hard to make it better.
Another subject that I want to discuss is artificial intelligence. We can notice this coming innovation just by using our phones. Just say “Ok google” or “Say Siri”, the voice recognizer will answer automatically, you will hear how artificial intelligence sounds like. This technology sounds crazy. It’s just a matter of time before we will have robots featured with artificial intelligence just like in the science fiction films such as I-Robot. Even though, the idea sounds exciting and futuristic numerous issues can be quoted like ; what will happen if one day this artificial intelligence becomes more clever than a human brain ? What happens if we can’t control it ? Or even if we can, what happens if it’s in the hands of malicious people ? Despite the better offs that we can find in innovation we will always find people who want to use it negatively.
All these innovations are just a logical step forward of everything that we can see around us. We used to have trains, now we have the hyperloops, we used to have computers, now we have artificial intelligence, we don’t even need to type it on a keyboard anymore. Until we have one human being on this world, who has the dreaming capacity and the ambition to change the world, we wouldn’t be able to stop innovation because innovation is what keeps us alive.
By reading your topics, it’s true that we don’t see a technological revolution every morning but several small every day. These small cluster of innovations always finish to a large technological revolution and vice versa.
Until then...
If only 10% of Musk's ideas come to fruition, he'll have done us all a great service. I think the hyperloop is less likely than many.
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